Posts by waton

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Now question all these people disfellowshipped for adulteres marriage

by Yomama in

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do they get apology for getting the boot?.

waton

Y: give the details of that allegedly changed " adultery brings disfellowshipping " ruling.

remember Jesus said, that even a persistent adulterous "eye" will have you regret that in "gehenna. " where their worm die est not"

PS: I remember from the 60s, where an innocent mate had to give consent to a guilty party in a scriptural divorce to remarry.

A vengeful, hurt victim, of a scoundrel, could ruin that one's life, by withholding that permission, if the wrongdoer wanted to "survive Armageddon", wanted wt's favour. a kh wedding.

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Did you at one time Believe-that you were not going to die. Does your still in JW spouse still believe?

by pistolpete in

this magazine says it all!.

and many of the older jws believed at one point in their life that they would make it through the great tribulation and into the 1000 year reign of christ without dying.

which is why so many jws stayed in so long.. is the main reason why jws ignore all the child abuse, the end of door to door service, and the closing of kingdom hall for almost two years----because they still believe they will not die?.

waton

no, really not at all. I hoped though and believed , that the father would intervene to prevent us all being killed in, or, because of a 3rd and last war. Of course is was done through the M.A.D. doctrine that would have killed the warmongers too. as to

b) to obtain everlasting live is not a driving force in her life, the young ones?

preoccupation with death, and wt doctrines too is a quaint tick of the irrelevant older ones.

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Roger aka Andre' cites scripture that contradicts major wt false doctrine.

by waton in

in the just finished wt study # 38, "--spiritual family" , par.

19 , " robert " is reported to have cited math: 12:50. note he has limited "bible knowledge" therefore is not fully indoctrinated.

jesus: .

waton

it appears COs have not been supplied with new outlines yet, that include the wt study insight into Math:12:50 "everyone that does the will of my father is my brother--"

still hammering: "obey the anointed partakers in patterson," or else. o t p i p mantra.

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CLASSICAL music: value ZERO ?? (The Truth That Leads to Eternal LIfe)

by Terry in

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classical music: value zero??.

performances are ephemeral.

you hear a live performance - and it's gone.. a recording may preserve that 'in a certain way' but it can't preserve it against other performances of the same thing.

waton

the music is never as good as a studio

mbc; how true, but the best music can be truly moving in the original, with top notch modern instruments. after all, stereo machines produce sound with cardboard.

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Why some are religious or not?

by Vidqun in

time article: several years before pope francis became pope of the catholic church in 2013, psychologists began to debunk the idea that being more educated meant a person was less likely to be religious.

instead, a new social psychology theoryone that had little to do with education levelarose.

according to dual process theory, people are either deliberative or intuitive when they make decisions.

waton

But the way obviously intelligent people and often sceptical people who question other things, can still be believers never ceases to astonish me.

S: with due respect, Some of the most practical thinkers, have been deists, true believers not having religiosity. closet ones today.

It takes real faith to believe that the universe made itself, when even bare energy is uncreated.

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Tesla Cyberwhistle - Are People Really This Dumb?

by Simon in

what if i told you that we needed a whistle?

probably the dollar store.

or walmart.

waton

too bad it is now bad form to whistle at/ about ladies. acknowledged by 50 dollar whistle? but I am worth it! . those were the days. prior to 1975.

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CLASSICAL music: value ZERO ?? (The Truth That Leads to Eternal LIfe)

by Terry in

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classical music: value zero??.

performances are ephemeral.

you hear a live performance - and it's gone.. a recording may preserve that 'in a certain way' but it can't preserve it against other performances of the same thing.

waton

nothing beats live performances. For the record.

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There is no heavenly calling, it is a wishful thinking of JWs

by Abraham1 in

then jesus said to his disciples: “truly i say to you that it will be difficult for a rich man to enter the kingdom of the heavens.

again i say to you, it is easier for a camel to get through a needle’s eye than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of god.” (mathew 19:23, 24, https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/study-bible/books/matthew/19/) for jesus both “kingdom of heaven and kingdom of god” are interchangeable—they are one and the same.

when earth comes again under god’s rulership, earth becomes a “kingdom of heaven.” (mathew 5:3, 5) “those poor in spirit” are defined as those having no self-importance or egoless (mathew 16:24) and “the meek” too are egoless.

waton

No mention of two classes of people .

how about the gates with the name of the 12 tribes, the foundations with the 12 apostles names?

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Roger aka Andre' cites scripture that contradicts major wt false doctrine.

by waton in

in the just finished wt study # 38, "--spiritual family" , par.

19 , " robert " is reported to have cited math: 12:50. note he has limited "bible knowledge" therefore is not fully indoctrinated.

jesus: .

waton

But also, “brother” can also mean and refer to Jesus brothers in the sense of the “heavenly calling”.

Fm, yes it could, but Jesus said; "all those" . Also, at the time Jesus spoke these words, there was no heavenly calling, even he used language at the last supper for example, that can only be understood to mean an earthly future. Of course he was the second adam, sacrificing his earthly everlasting life.

The text in Math 25 stipulates strictly humanitarian deeds, to the most needy. wt's twisting of the text to make that equal to support for the wt empire scheme is the worst of it's doctrines. imho.

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Roger aka Andre' cites scripture that contradicts major wt false doctrine.

by waton in

in the just finished wt study # 38, "--spiritual family" , par.

19 , " robert " is reported to have cited math: 12:50. note he has limited "bible knowledge" therefore is not fully indoctrinated.

jesus: .

waton

In the just finished wt study # 38, "--spiritual family" , par. 19 , " Robert " is reported to have cited Math: 12:50. Note he has limited "bible knowledge" therefore is not fully indoctrinated. Jesus:

" Whoever does the will of my father, who is in heaven, that one is my brother, sister and mother."

"God's spirit helped "andre" to answer that question" . so wt,

wt teaches that the brothers of jesus are only the patakers especially those in the head of the wt organisation. misreading Math. 25. But here, according to the wt story teller,

Roger, a new bible student , perhaps in the "first love of the truth" guided by Holy Spirit, sets you straight.

" Whoever does the will of my father, who is in heaven, that one is my brother, sister and mother."