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What day off the Week?
by BereanThinker7 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
does anybody know if the borg has ever done any articles on what day of the week they think jesus died?

i know most denominations think it was friday and i have also heard somewhat sensible arguments that it could be wednesday.

not that it matters weather one in a believer or not even.
waton

the quandary arises from the story that Jesus invoked Jonah, who with oxygen supply and acid resistant coating survived 3 -three- days in the fish. saying he, the messiah, would emerge after 3 days from the tomb.
That meant he spend saturday, friday. thursday in our sequencing in sheol, died Wednesday not earlier than Thursday.
Lazarus his contemporary resurrectee at 4 days was already odorous, so he avoided that stage.
Jesus could not have been a false prophet, because that would not made him an unblemished ransom sacrifice, so: give him the three days of cave dwelling.
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Zoom Memorial
by gabcol in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
well i did it.. i attended the zoom memorial ( in respect for my mum).

it was very strange to say the least.

everyone had bread and wine at their houses.
waton

how do they do the count? there was no pause for asking for raised, or emptied glasses, girls doing the serving, wow! , lots of cameras off. systems down. true family affairs. and
even with a good speaker the big disconnect between the sacrifice for all, symbols of means to get everlasting life, adam like, and
why only the 144 000 should partake. why everlasting life, slowly attained through 1000 years will be done without the ransom, without the symbols of it.
an empty ness at the end, filled with wt commercials.
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The Craziness of JW's.
by Overrated in
1. jw
2. friends
my dad and i would work on different "pioneers" vehicles in our kingdumb hell.

and to nuts and bolts they where real "hoopties" anytime ready for the crusher.

both my dad and i would work with our skills to keep their cars running since they don't have a real job to get a real working car.
waton

that entitlement harks back to the time when magazines "at the counter" where 1 cent for pioneers, and free for "specials" if wt can be so generous----
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Zoom Memorial
by gabcol in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
well i did it.. i attended the zoom memorial ( in respect for my mum).

it was very strange to say the least.

everyone had bread and wine at their houses.
waton

interesting is your reminder that as seen from one location, direction, out there, it is always memorial time, as the world turns. We surrounded by pacific will be last.
yeah, the wrong doctrines notwithstanding and the truly horrible people "in", there are a select few, that one would not mind to spend a lot of time with. if we had the choice.
let's drink to that. communion time!
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the string of wt's 5 unlucky 5s
by waton in
1. social
2. humour
the upcoming "memorial" is the 85th anniversary of the mandatory hunger strike of the earthly sheep "class" of wt workers.

but: look at all these famous 5s:.

1925 : wt advertised the revealing of the ancients of old, like noah, abraham as living model elders.
waton

1925 : wt advertised the revealing of the ancients of old, like Noah, Abraham as living model elders.
here is a question, had they been showing up at the convention, as promised,
would Noah and Abraham have started to partake of the emblems to fit into the new covenant, to benefit from the ransom for everlasting life ? and an afterthought:
Br. N Knorr to Br F. Franz in circa 1945, with the beginning of the atomic age, possible start of the GT:
"it looks like the great Crowd is not so great after all!----?
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Just invited to a zoom memorial.
by Overrated in
1. jw
2. friends
walked away from the trooth years ago(over 20) my older sister sends me an invite to the memorial via zoom.

i have no interest in jwism at all.

should i ignore or respond?.
waton

Well, seeing as their thing is tomorrow that leaves time for her to join you at an Easter service at a church next week! Sounds fair.
c : Yea, a full slate of celebrations, first the death and then the resurrection. At least the death is proven, no 2000 year perfect men around, -- yet.
I would make the best of it, doing the thing the way it was meant to be, in private, under the full moon in east, in the springtime. a glass of wine, with a mild appetizer.
They might even deliver the crackers if you ask.
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What do you think about NDE? Life after death?
by Mowgliandbalu in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
please forgive if my english is a bit crooked :-) at least i understand quite well and i thank everyone here in the forum very much!

you were a big help for me within the last months.

i'm a born-in from germany, mid50, was 20 years elder, woke up a few years ago.
waton

I think NDEs are just hallucinations caused by an oxygen starved brain
a w: all "sterben" is starving of the brain, The old dutch knew that. same word.
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What do you think about NDE? Life after death?
by Mowgliandbalu in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
please forgive if my english is a bit crooked :-) at least i understand quite well and i thank everyone here in the forum very much!

you were a big help for me within the last months.

i'm a born-in from germany, mid50, was 20 years elder, woke up a few years ago.
waton

University of Illinois at Chicago. "'Zombie' genes? Research shows some genes come to life in the brain after death: Post-mortem changes may shed light on important brain studies." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 23 March 2021. <www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/03/210323131230.htm>.
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Questions to examine our faith
by road to nowhere in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
this weeks clam part.

takes you to a wt on slowing down.

first question is are you discouraged by the promises not coming.
waton

regardless of cost or sacrifice. FFG
or it is reasonable, or really suspect.
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the string of wt's 5 unlucky 5s
by waton in
1. social
2. humour
the upcoming "memorial" is the 85th anniversary of the mandatory hunger strike of the earthly sheep "class" of wt workers.

but: look at all these famous 5s:.

1925 : wt advertised the revealing of the ancients of old, like noah, abraham as living model elders.
waton

You forgot 1995: The year they dropped the teaching that the "generation" of Matthew 24 was tied directly to persons alive in 1914.
FFG; Thank you for adding to the list. wt might make the 10 yet. FF's ghost would be proud of you!