Posts by waton

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Just invited to a zoom memorial.

by Overrated in

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friends

walked away from the trooth years ago(over 20) my older sister sends me an invite to the memorial via zoom.

i have no interest in jwism at all.

should i ignore or respond?.

waton

Well, seeing as their thing is tomorrow that leaves time for her to join you at an Easter service at a church next week! Sounds fair.

c : Yea, a full slate of celebrations, first the death and then the resurrection. At least the death is proven, no 2000 year perfect men around, -- yet.

I would make the best of it, doing the thing the way it was meant to be, in private, under the full moon in east, in the springtime. a glass of wine, with a mild appetizer.

They might even deliver the crackers if you ask.

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What do you think about NDE? Life after death?

by Mowgliandbalu in

please forgive if my english is a bit crooked :-) at least i understand quite well and i thank everyone here in the forum very much!

you were a big help for me within the last months.

i'm a born-in from germany, mid50, was 20 years elder, woke up a few years ago.

waton

I think NDEs are just hallucinations caused by an oxygen starved brain

a w: all "sterben" is starving of the brain, The old dutch knew that. same word.

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What do you think about NDE? Life after death?

by Mowgliandbalu in

please forgive if my english is a bit crooked :-) at least i understand quite well and i thank everyone here in the forum very much!

you were a big help for me within the last months.

i'm a born-in from germany, mid50, was 20 years elder, woke up a few years ago.

University of Illinois at Chicago. "'Zombie' genes? Research shows some genes come to life in the brain after death: Post-mortem changes may shed light on important brain studies." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 23 March 2021. <www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/03/210323131230.htm>.

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Questions to examine our faith

by road to nowhere in

this weeks clam part.

takes you to a wt on slowing down.

first question is are you discouraged by the promises not coming.

waton

regardless of cost or sacrifice. FFG

or it is reasonable, or really suspect.

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the string of wt's 5 unlucky 5s

by waton in

the upcoming "memorial" is the 85th anniversary of the mandatory hunger strike of the earthly sheep "class" of wt workers.

but: look at all these famous 5s:.

1925 : wt advertised the revealing of the ancients of old, like noah, abraham as living model elders.

waton

You forgot 1995: The year they dropped the teaching that the "generation" of Matthew 24 was tied directly to persons alive in 1914.

FFG; Thank you for adding to the list. wt might make the 10 yet. FF's ghost would be proud of you!

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the string of wt's 5 unlucky 5s

by waton in

the upcoming "memorial" is the 85th anniversary of the mandatory hunger strike of the earthly sheep "class" of wt workers.

but: look at all these famous 5s:.

1925 : wt advertised the revealing of the ancients of old, like noah, abraham as living model elders.

waton

The upcoming "memorial" is the 85th anniversary of the mandatory hunger strike of the earthly sheep "class" of wt workers. but: look at all these famous 5s:

1925 : wt advertised the revealing of the ancients of old, like Noah, Abraham as living model elders.

1935: Great crowd are present before they even come out of the great tribulation. *

1975: its reasonable that the millenium will start now,

85 years celebration of abstention of ordinary Jws from partaking of the emblems, for everlasting life (1936- 2021)

2075: end of the last group of overlappers. ( 2 centenarians overlapping by <20 years each, see F. Franz

A five star success story. far short of the 10 of earthly perfection, but keep trying!

* wt got around that small detail by teaching at the time, that the GT had started in 1914, stopped in 1918 and after that interruption will start at Armageddon again.

there must be a better way, you have to feel sorry for them.

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Controversy Early Day's Watchtower

by vienne in

some of you may be interested in this: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2021/03/the-watch-tower-and-koreshan-unity.html.

waton

to the Koreshan belief of a hollow earth

E: that struck me too. Like the bible , and wt talk itself, there is a lot of science fiction in the religious field, but

Scientist are looking at harvesting more, or not, of far out starlight. see New Scientist article above.

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the gaping hole in this week's weak wt study.

by waton in

for pimi pimo persons: give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.

in the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.!

all jws partook.

waton

if so It was probably down to shock and confusion! I’d put money on their numbers declining in 1936

Diogenesister,

I was not there , only 5 at the time, The article calls this new light a "revelation", kind of admitting that there was no direct scriptural basis for the new light on the pulling the 'great crowd' down to earth,

It is the "not partaking part" that was left out by wt in the original assembly announcement. i believe.

There were declines in membership after 1925, 1975, both related to what happens on earth or not, I dont know about 1935.

wt writers do not always see the ramifications of traps that they walk into with such dramas. Current example is the anointed generation, last generation of partakers. absolutely wrong. additionally,

The overlap creates a surplus of partakers. They should have never linked partaking as a monopoly to the 144 000. after 1935 in the first place.

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the gaping hole in this week's weak wt study.

by waton in

for pimi pimo persons: give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.

in the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.!

all jws partook.

waton

Everyday until the GT does begin, Rev. 6:12-17 is always 3 1/2 years away.

Johnamos:

I was taking the revelation to a down to earth level, when on April 8 2024, at 2 25 pm sharp the sun will be dark over upstate NY. well north of Warwick. 3 years, 2 weeks from now. not false prophecy.of total solar eclipse.

total eclipses are unique to this planet. planned? planted? no matter what, it is a fact. and

it would be ~ 2 weeks away from memorial day. by then hopefully all will partake, or at least a text will be offered how darkness fell over light.

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the gaping hole in this week's weak wt study.

by waton in

for pimi pimo persons: give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.

in the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.!

all jws partook.

waton

menrov:

they have a song that says: " the kingdom is here, [so] let it come".

There is the kingdom of the Son's, Col 1, . the kingdom of 1914 (1919 GB), the millenium and the eternal kingdom. Of those 4,

it is at the end of the millenium that would be the "coming: or the arrival, the presence of wt perfection. brought on by the new covenant blood. so:

why would those aspiring to perfection, on earth, obtained through the ransom covenant not partake now, and until the deed is done > 10 centuries from now?

where does it say the ransom covenant blood is not needed during the 1000 years. ?