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  144000 The numbers don't add up

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in 1935 there were 63,146 who attended the memorial and 52,465 partook.

  (proclaimers book page 717).

  according to the bible teach book on page 78, it says, “since the days of the apostles, god has been selecting faithful christians in order to complete the number 144,000”.

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  waton

  shouldn't you know which tribe you belong to, --?

  That is another point. According to watchtower, the 12 tribes are all the humans with an Earthly Destiny*, the 144 000 are sealed out of them (of course, where else would they come from). but:

  The sealing Angels are not telling. who are in the distinctive tribes, nor who gets the seal. (only his/ her hairdresser knows for sure).so,

  Since the city with the gates will descended from heaven, it is obviously to let the earthly tribes in. (The city are [already] the 144 000, the bride) so:

  * ALL JWs, should know by now what tribe they belong too. evidently the angels do, and they rank lower than the GB The anointed in Paul's day used to knows things that the angels longed to peer into.! Angels are not peers to the anointed?; really?!?! it really does not add up!.

  Try those facts on your favoured elder, couched, framed in the right question.
  
  
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  144000 The numbers don't add up

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in 1935 there were 63,146 who attended the memorial and 52,465 partook.

  (proclaimers book page 717).

  according to the bible teach book on page 78, it says, “since the days of the apostles, god has been selecting faithful christians in order to complete the number 144,000”.

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  waton

  
  So who in Jehovah's organization are the 12,000 of Ephraim, and the 12,000 of Manasseh?. If you're the 144,000, shouldn't you know which tribe you belong to, so that you know which gate of Jerusalem to enter.

  Well, many here would qualify for the Tribe of Joseph, because they are

  1) whistle blowers, like him, of what really goes on in the 10 tribes, aka da org.

  2) ostracized, expelled by the 10 tribes, aka da brotherhood because of saying the truth

  3) possibly framed by false accusations, by jezebel influence perhaps.

  4) given a chance by media, Simon here, and bigger worldly players,-- to set things straight, publicly, in other words: feeding the truth about the truth to those that come (to Egypt, the worldly source) for taat

  If you miss to be in Joseph, you still can make Manasseh. (Double reward for whistleblowers) assured.

  You do not even have to be sealed out of them, just being in there is good enough.

  These are the ones that are not in, but out of that starving* gang.

  * do not classify the current programs as mental/spiritual food.
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  144000 The numbers don't add up

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in 1935 there were 63,146 who attended the memorial and 52,465 partook.

  (proclaimers book page 717).

  according to the bible teach book on page 78, it says, “since the days of the apostles, god has been selecting faithful christians in order to complete the number 144,000”.

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  waton

  The idea that by counting the ones that take full communion you determine who will be ruling the universe, no, the multiverse, all creation, --is the heights of arrogance or ignorance, or both.
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  144000 The numbers don't add up

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in 1935 there were 63,146 who attended the memorial and 52,465 partook.

  (proclaimers book page 717).

  according to the bible teach book on page 78, it says, “since the days of the apostles, god has been selecting faithful christians in order to complete the number 144,000”.

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  waton

  The idea that any "seats" are left for JWs to fill, let alone so many, is the height of arrogance.

  bold added for emphasis
  
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  God and even nature are against all practices of mind control

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  most of the people with skin problems have something in common.

  they feel their individuality is being threatened somehow and others have power over them as though they are feeling thin-skinned or things as tending to get under their skin.

  it is under the skin that our nerves function, and skin is the largest sense-organ which is like a blanket over the whole body, hence is a symbol of protection.

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  waton

  https://youtu.be/goYnjP-ghRk

  there is this song: "I got you under my skin". Frank Sinatra a too.
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  Overlapping Generations

  by JRK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.

  it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.

  she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.

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  waton

  End of..
  And it should have been End of the religion.

  You are so right, but the current details still merit debunking to show how deep wt is in doctrinal free fall. or mired ever deeper in the mire of their own making. You got to admire their brazen disregard for the sheep though, who they keep for fleecing and slaughter.
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  Overlapping Generations

  by JRK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.

  it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.

  she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.

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  waton

  
  

  Jack Barr died December 4, 2010.

  Ordinary wt anointed overlappers are not barred from the generation, even if they are not of the GB.

  Although David Splane gave Fred Franz's as an age example , he admitted there would be older ordinary anointed, both in the 1914 group and the overlapping little flock.

  Taking him by his word, from 1992, the year of Franz's departure, or later, there would be more than 80 years after that.so,

  Not only is the dual group generation a brazen redefining of the terms, looking at the age of the players involved, stretches it on and on. Besides,

  The generation can not be the anointed, nor the other sheep.
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  God is in no necessity to communicate with mankind

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  here is an interesting incident reported in the bible.. judah (the fourth son of jacob), the founder of the israelite tribe of judah, slept with her daughter-in-law tamar when she showed herself up as a prostitute in disguise.

  (genesis 38:16, 17) “about three months later judah was told: "your daughter-in-law tamar is guilty of prostitution, and as a result she is now pregnant.

  " judah said, "bring her out and have her burned to death!

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  waton

  How come for the first 2000 years since creation God/Jehovah never recorded or had written down by anyone including Noah or any of his sons that historical record

  How come for the first 30 years nobody was prodded from above to put what was supposed to be the beginning of the final act aka New testament, into writing either?

  let it stew and ferment first?

  PS: it might be all BS, but obviously if there is a creator, he, wants us to retro engineer everything, she knows, there is no better way to learn,-- except through humour.

  Do the psalms not say "--God is laughing--"?
  
  
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  The strange death of Europe

  by waton in

  1. social
  2. current

  bbc: polices at airports stop "truant" families .

  with millions of irregular migrants drawing illegally on the public purse, many areas even unsafe for the police to enter, police families in their homes threatened by dissenting mobs, .

  police give tickets to families who leave early for the vacation, to get empty seats at better prices.

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  waton

  Thousands of Rohingya rape victims expected to give birth ctvnews.ca

  hate to go off topic, but since this is an all serious news rant.

  Here we have tens of thousands of rape victims giving birth in refugee camps.Help should be given,These are Muslim ladies, and there is big money in that large community. and then a compulsory genetic testing of all possible suspects, and an eradication of the perpetrators.
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  The strange death of Europe

  by waton in

  1. social
  2. current

  bbc: polices at airports stop "truant" families .

  with millions of irregular migrants drawing illegally on the public purse, many areas even unsafe for the police to enter, police families in their homes threatened by dissenting mobs, .

  police give tickets to families who leave early for the vacation, to get empty seats at better prices.

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  waton

  
  
  

  If every company was like starbucks amazon and google governments and councils would go bust.The only way that the police army navy are paid for is by taxes.

  Perhaps Europe, and North America have more "slackers" on their pay roll than soldiers.

  at least the big army of wt slaves are supposed to be self sustained, but are they not subsidized too?