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  Did man really go to the moon?

  by atomant in

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  l have researched this subject and come to the conclusion that no we didn't.what do others think?.

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  waton

  RIP John Young, read it.
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  Generation

  by Jrjw in

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  please could someone explain to me what the generation thing i keep seeing in people's threads was that had lots of people leave the wts coz it was way before i became a witness.

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  waton

  Allow this as ole Franz to explain it: pale emperor. (eminence grise)

  thanks for putting up that witness video.

  Here is what D.S is saying.

  ole Franz, not the oldest, but 21 in 1914 died in 1992. so an older one might have died in 94.

  Another, now living, but older Franz-ike anointed, overlapping at 21 with the original *** ole franz would be ~48 today, live to 2074. note!!!

  the generation stops at the start of the Great Tribulation. the second groups timeline of the chart, ends at the line, before all these things occur, really get going! but remember,

  Jesus said the generation would not pass before all these things, the GT, the big A,- occur, in other words the generation would pass, die later! so,

  even without the overlap, that anointed generation is bogus, because what jesus said. so,

  if not the anointed sheep, is the generation the Other Sheep? no, that could not be it either, -because

  Jesus said the generation would pass away or die, but not until--- and of course wt teaches that millions of OS now living will never die.

  thank you for putting your foot in that, for the record, david.

  *** pun intended, because he was an original.
  
  
  
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  Whatever happened to the "written review"?

  by pale.emperor in

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  does anyone know why the written review was stopped?

  i relished the half hour silence they'd give you to "write down your answers", time i spend doodling or thinking up cool song lyrics..

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  waton

  It had that dangerous effect of making people think (to a certain degree). Good JW

  very salient point. The hidden idea, that there might be alternate, better or deeper answers, or wrong answers, that with new light would become, -turn out to be- right, must have troubled a few wt writers. Even in math, you have some equations, with more than one unknown that have more than one correct answer. and

  there are a lot of unknowns is wt math/myth land.
  
  
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  Generation

  by Jrjw in

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  please could someone explain to me what the generation thing i keep seeing in people's threads was that had lots of people leave the wts coz it was way before i became a witness.

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  waton

  at the root of it all is Jesus singling out a generation that would not pass away until all his endtime prophecies would be fulfilled, all these things have occurred.

  Wt is still trying to find that generation

  Cclue: it is not the anointed)
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  Whatever happened to the "written review"?

  by pale.emperor in

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  does anyone know why the written review was stopped?

  i relished the half hour silence they'd give you to "write down your answers", time i spend doodling or thinking up cool song lyrics..

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  waton

  here is a try: The questions were bible based, and the bible, they know raises too many unanswered questions, ' they dread the ones coming up: : a generation is

  a) the period between mother and daughter giving birth, like in genealogies,

  b) the combined ages of a contemporaneous patriarchs or

  c) in modern times, overlapping groups. oops!
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  Matthew 24:34 NEW UNDERSTANDING (January 2018 JW Broadcasting)

  by Alfred in

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  david splane explains newest understanding" of 'this generation" adding a 3rd group.... .

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  waton

  WT "this generation" teaching stands valid based on the definition of generation as wt applies the definition to the 2 annointed groups. And that's that. Fisherman:

  indeed, and that will have the overlapping group lapse by about 2075. Mark David Splan's words.

  In addition to the wt definition there are of course these pesky bible facts about them:

  1) there is more to spiritual Israel's tribes then the marked 144k, (they come out of them)

  2) they are male virgins, not surprising, their sponsor, Jesus was too.

  3) they have to die a sacrificial death, axed, literally. No euthanasia, morphine-eased slipping away here. Rev. 20

  4) they can not pass away until all things have occurred.

  wt has always played wild and loose with bible facts. always came back to bite them later. All of Deutr. 18 is yet to be fully applied.
  
  
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  CL&M part Jan 4 - annual meeting service report - our outstanding experiences

  by loneranger in

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  this was the first part in the "living as christians" section of the meeting tonight.

  speaker had two pioneers on the stage to relate their outstanding experiences for 2017. we have 23 pioneers and over 160 publishers in the hall.

  our territory is densely populated with single family houses, apartments and condominiums.

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  waton

  same here. the stark contrast is the hyped up video and live demonstration of field service, Unrealistic, no sane house holder would put up with this, after years of the artificial theater like this, not one service related growth experience, gross.
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  The new world we live in

  by JaniceA in

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  so, i'm in a starbucks.

  it's 5:45 pm.

  this kid who is maybe 6 years old yells, "mom, my tablet is fully charged any my phone is at 84%!".

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  waton

  cheap phones for his one and two year olds to watch cartoons in the car.

  with self driving cars here, in this new world (without wt blessing), the driver will be abls to join them in the screen play. . what a waste of good time, that could be used living your own life.

  Even on a boring 10hour flight, you could take in the endlessly changing world from a window seat, looking at the planet from a new perspective. rather staring at the screen in front of you, but just mho.
  
  
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  Matthew 24:34 NEW UNDERSTANDING (January 2018 JW Broadcasting)

  by Alfred in

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  david splane explains newest understanding" of 'this generation" adding a 3rd group.... .

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  waton

  Applying the prophesy to the "anointed," the present "this generation" teaching conforms to such definition. Fisherman

  here is another reason why the anointed generation does not conform to the prophecy of Jesus at all:

  Math 24. :22. " In fact, unless these days would be cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen [anointed] [sealed] ones, those days will be cut short." smell the fishy here?
  

  The anointed flesh will not, should never be saved. It can not inherit the heavenly kingdom. wt teaches now, that the last partakers' bodies will be disposed of by angels, like they did with Jesus'. It is the OSheep's flesh that has to be saved.

  wt wrong on all counts. particularly where it counts, doctrine.
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

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  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  waton

  The thought that all of this beautiful, productive life which covers the Planet just came into existence without an extremely intelligent guiding hand is incomprehensible. Old Navy:

  Unless the originator of the process is so advanced, that the initial setup guaranteed that the function, and ingredients will automatically bring results, good, bad and whatever. without any further fiddelling.