Posts by waton

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Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

waton

The short version is, an enclosed flat earth/realm/infinite plane proves a creator.
Let's watch this unfold together. ka-iros.

like a mobius strip under a glass dome. ? daemlich. unenfoldible.

really, if kairos has taken on the task to recruit for this cult among us anti cultist, he has taken on a hard task. of course there are the vulnerable here, deprived by wt of meaningful reasoning skills, his real audience.

I have lived among dedicated Nazis, dedicated Stalinists, I would hate to be confronted by dedicated flat earthers in power. with them there would be no reasoning. a truly alienated superrace,

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Singing todays WT

by road to nowhere in

the jist was that we all should sing.

then the first 6 or 8 paragraphs describe how early bible accounts have trained and set aside musicians to do the singing while everyone else listened.. the songs they have put out have no soul, rhythm, or soothing melodies as a whole.

the old hymns are some real music, even if you don't agree with the "teachings".. there is no admission of poetry using archaic language at times for affect or to add to the rhyme, they have to have everything agree with the grey bible.. anyone speak foreign languages?

waton

Paragraph 17 shows the wt quandary. if the bible is inspired, and even the canonization is spirit directed, then 1Cor 14 stands and it is disgraceful for ladies to speak in the imperative in the congregations of the holy ones. (Non partaker groups are exempt, only unholy ones there). but not just sisters, new ones, young ones too are targeted to keep quiet, only the alpha males have a voice.

silence is golden.

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Singing todays WT

by road to nowhere in

the jist was that we all should sing.

then the first 6 or 8 paragraphs describe how early bible accounts have trained and set aside musicians to do the singing while everyone else listened.. the songs they have put out have no soul, rhythm, or soothing melodies as a whole.

the old hymns are some real music, even if you don't agree with the "teachings".. there is no admission of poetry using archaic language at times for affect or to add to the rhyme, they have to have everything agree with the grey bible.. anyone speak foreign languages?

waton

The singing, the standing at attention , looking up at the screens, chest full of air, all are reminders of darker days in the past. Only the clicking of heels is missing, not the cliques though.

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Spacy question - ISS and gyros - what u think?

by MrRoboto in

lots of spacy questions lately so i'll add mine here.

theres a video of one of the guys on the international space station doing some experiments with a few portable cd players, using them as gyroscopes when turned on.

it was interesting to see.

waton

please tell me what misinfo i gave so we can clear that up. Mr Roboto.

sorry, did not mean that, just was momentarily peeved at looking to science questions, that could be answered by simple example, Gyros in orbit? look at Uranus. Actually like these science problems.

just thought wt would be very pleased that their greatest threat would be tangled up in patently bizarre discussions, this not being one of them.

My own misinformation, on the Moon observation, Eclipse shadow not 5, but only 3 hours. live and learn.

have a great year everyone.

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Spacy question - ISS and gyros - what u think?

by MrRoboto in

lots of spacy questions lately so i'll add mine here.

theres a video of one of the guys on the international space station doing some experiments with a few portable cd players, using them as gyroscopes when turned on.

it was interesting to see.

waton

wt question for you: if the gyro spins a slow 100 revolution per minute, how many is that per day, tip: it is in the wt bible. twice.

here is the answer: 100 rev per minute, in 1 hour 6000 revs, in 24 hours 144 000 revs.

I hope wt keeps minutes, it would be revealing to see the wednesday warwick ones.

havoc = keeping wt-type misinformation alive, distracting from the real issues, it's like magic.

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Is it 16?

by Jrjw in

hi can anyone tell me if it's true the society says parents must take their child to meetings until they're 16 even if they don't want to?

my ex is being a pain about me not forcing my 12 year old to be a witness.

he doesn't know i'm becoming inactive at moment so i have to be careful how i word things to him.

waton

my mother denies that she forced me.

fastJehu: In my days, when the concrete on your autobahn was still wet, we called that voluntary compulsion = freiwilliger Zwank. FZ in the KZ.

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Matthew 24:34 NEW UNDERSTANDING (January 2018 JW Broadcasting)

by Alfred in

david splane explains newest understanding" of 'this generation" adding a 3rd group.... .

waton

assuming this is real.

1) Ages are not to scale, even Franz's time line, 21 in 1914, should be shown to reach to the Great Tribulation.

2) Another one like him, would be 46 today and should be shown to reach past 2070,

3) Splane said earlier, there are possibly older anointed, baptized younger, living longer, -- so they should show 2075 before the great Tribulation

4) the elephant in the room:

Jesus said "all these things will pass" before the generation dies. Splane contradicts Jesus. the line shows The generation passes, ends, before the Tribulation starts, Armageddon starts, the Judgements finishes with the sheep getting everlasting life.

with pants on fire, why is there no smoke showing?

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Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

waton

Nobody has bothered to comment on what the 'firmament' mentioned in Genesis 1 might be. I wonder why? kairos:

because to believe the earth to be a platter is one thing, to believe that it is also under a huge cover (like the ones that were used to keep the flies off the cake) would take the cake, raising the stakes of in-credulity to another level.
Firm circles, and epicycles did not hold the stars and planets / wanderers firmly above the Earth. Bible writers were not the only ones to try to grapple with explanations, the g[r]eeks too, but to still teach all that, like wt , is taking ancestor [knowledge] worship too far.

Ps. the precision with which, and how firmly the orbits, rings fit into patterns is amazing though; shows how firmly nature adheres to the laws that govern it.

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Factual, false, or phenomenon?

by stillin in

this strikes me as strange.

in the last few years i have met four newly associated, and in a couple of cases baptized, brothers in the congregations who say that they did long stints in secret branches of the military and that they were behind the lines, "wet work" operatives.

i might have considered it exceptional that one person who served in such a capacity would even go to church, let alone join up with the likes of jehovah's witnesses.

waton

amicable just finished reading the book: "A nice place to have a war" about CIA, Air America, Udorn, Hmong, Laos.

Even some of the Missionaries in Indochina were "characters".

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QFR - Posting JW publications on a personal website/social media

by Listener in

the following is a qfr from the april, 2018 watchtower.

just a couple of articles back the organization was explaining how jws need to be encouraging and even when admonishing congregations jesus would start out with encouraging words.

we see none of this in the qfr, rather, it is heavy handed and legally incorrect.. why is it not permissible to post publications of jehovah’s witnesses on a personal website or on social media?.

waton

Why are the r&f called "publishers" if they aren't allowed to publish? stillin

well, at least in the past you were allowed to add some originality to your schpiel, in the "school" even the kids could comment on the bible reading (like "Jesus" in his home synagogue).

Wt is past that now. public will notice.