hello all - so me and stuckinarut2 are at the state library proving to ourselves that wt has it all wrong re: 607. i've read at length jwfacts, jwsurvey and crisis of conscience that all go into the subject and i've just downloaded gentile times reconsidered.. while it is fabulous to have someone else compile all the research and evidence for you, it is quite another to see it in print for yourself - and so, here we are.. while we wait for our array of books i couldn't help but share with you how the state library has catalogued jewish history - 586 bc to 70 ad.
no mention of 607 as a key date as far as the library's catalogue is concerned!!
evidence before we have our books!!.
The fixation on the First Jewish-Roman War (66-73 C.E.) by the Jehovah's Witnesses and other Christians is so very odd to me.
David Jay: thank you for the clarifications, post 2 was about the internal inconsistencies off the wt doctrines, anointed generation. That jws have a myopic world view is another of their foibles.
hello all - so me and stuckinarut2 are at the state library proving to ourselves that wt has it all wrong re: 607. i've read at length jwfacts, jwsurvey and crisis of conscience that all go into the subject and i've just downloaded gentile times reconsidered.. while it is fabulous to have someone else compile all the research and evidence for you, it is quite another to see it in print for yourself - and so, here we are.. while we wait for our array of books i couldn't help but share with you how the state library has catalogued jewish history - 586 bc to 70 ad.
no mention of 607 as a key date as far as the library's catalogue is concerned!!
evidence before we have our books!!.
and then there is the other destructive end of Jerusalem in 70 CE. survived by the then anointed generation that had fled to the hills. (as predicted and instructed)
Now, wt is setting itself up for another fiasko here too, , by predicting that in the 2nd fulfillment, the anointed generation will die before the beginning of the end, contradicting Jesus' words.
Jerusalem oh Jerusalem. no end to wt's plight with you, real, "Heavenly-" , "-Above" or "New --".
my god!
i hope she is ok!
what have you leftists done to italy?!
Southern Europe does not need a wall, it has the moat aka MED. but guess what?
i normally don't bother going to the midweek jw meetings much.
however, upon reading in the april 2017 meeting workbook that there was to be a video about erich frost (former do for saxony & nazi prisoner in sachsenhausen concentration camp) i wanted to attend as i had read about this brother in history texts by detlef garbe and hans hesse.
i had also visited auschwitz several times and noted that the museum had a display / exhibition about jehovah's witnesses.
Of course there was a difference between Treblinka, Birkenau and Buchenwald. And being there was safer than in Hamburg or Dresden or Kursk. But If you ever had experiences Nazi rule, hunger as I have, and the reaction that your mind and body demands of you, you would never call those putting up with it, voluntarily, as collaborating cowards., not all of them anyway.
Luck played a great part in your fate, you could be on trips to Sweden as a nanny, or be worked to death in a tunnel destined to build V2s. Sadly of course, the worst can be brought out in humans too, as it is even happening in wt land as we speak.
i normally don't bother going to the midweek jw meetings much.
however, upon reading in the april 2017 meeting workbook that there was to be a video about erich frost (former do for saxony & nazi prisoner in sachsenhausen concentration camp) i wanted to attend as i had read about this brother in history texts by detlef garbe and hans hesse.
i had also visited auschwitz several times and noted that the museum had a display / exhibition about jehovah's witnesses.
Collaborating cowards.
S: I would not judge the jws so easily and harshly. The whole extermination machinery was run/done by inmates, gas chambers, ovens, the sorting, breaking out of gold teeth, inmates, who were trading time alive against what you call collaborating. At least the witnesses could leave left, free, provided they promised to become nazis. No other category of KZ prisoners, certainly not the jews had that option. so. they might not have supported the coming overlapping generation, but were true martyrs.
PS and they struggled with the false wt doctrine of the Super Superior.- but non existing secular authorities ! Imagine being ready to give your life for a valid principle, but sensing that there is something wrong with the wt religion, doctrine?
my god!
i hope she is ok!
what have you leftists done to italy?!
filmed in the dark, lack of contrast with the subjects? Running for their lives, or integrity, hard to get a stable shot with that.
i know most of you don't know what anonymous is or what the real 4chan is, but both are saying that their global meta data is pointing that now with south korean elections going to a pro war candidate (moon, who is a psycho) and china saying there may be no other solution, north korea will strike first before the end of this year.
japan has called up reserves.
take it with a grain of salt.
I doubt that will happen, there are too many historical and ideological differences. But the over-riding reason is the cost of such a move. Some calculate the cost to be as much as three trillion dollars.
fts: So do I, but I am looking at a best outcome, like the reunification of Germany. Which financially and philosophically still is a project in progress. The trillions spend on this are peanuts compared to the cost of keep this people apart, fighting each other.
The west (UN) called the repelling of the NK invasion a "police action" . A truly all out effort, no holds barred conflict like ww2, would not have ended in a stalemate.
So, I wish the Korean people well, a peaceful future, what a waste to be ready to commit suicide over who is going to rule.
i know most of you don't know what anonymous is or what the real 4chan is, but both are saying that their global meta data is pointing that now with south korean elections going to a pro war candidate (moon, who is a psycho) and china saying there may be no other solution, north korea will strike first before the end of this year.
japan has called up reserves.
take it with a grain of salt.
NK, like East Germany before, operates on the claim that they are the only legitimate rulers on the peninsula. They never formally surrendered to the overwhelming looming western might. Think of a united Korea with the aspiring North's military and the South's economic clout.
you could fertilize your garden with this shite.... https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/respond-to-accusations/.
Streisand effect ?
Streusand, the use of sand or sawdust to cover up, absorbe a mess and sweep it away. next question.
short info on interesting changes to the major conventions this year: there will be a new security concept that will be implemented at all regional conventions in 2017.. similar to other major events (e.g.
festivals, concerts), there will be admittance controls in stadiums.. - at each entrance, there will be a massive presence of attendants that look at each visitor.. - there will be pocket checks at the entrance.. - suspicious persons are no longer left on the convention grounds.. - suppliers to the stadium will be intensively inspected by attendants.. - there will be a special sign for attendants that must enter the stadium before 7.30 am.
all others (even all attendants) can only enter after 7.30 am..
From now on the conventions are held the whole summer through in the own jw circuit fascilities.
It keeps the money in the jw organization and is more an internal gathering, like the circuits
They tried that in a similar climate zone, and announced that "the aircon electricity bill is more than the the rent for the sports arena we use usually" -- but contributions must not have matched expectations ha ah.
