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  Have You Found Your Place in the World?

  by Rainbow_Troll in

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  2. experiences

  we were all told when we were in the watchtower that we should be grateful to be part of such a loving family.

  we were told that just beyond the superficial glamour of the world was a quagmire of despair, emptiness and pain waiting to suck us in.

  obviously, we took that part with a mountain of salt or we wouldn't be here today.

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  waton

  yes, but trying to featherbed it better still.
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  whatever happened to rotation? wt study to April two.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  with all the emphasis on hierarchical succession in that wt, , what ever happened to mentioning of the refreshing, liberating "rotating of positions" period, the time of great increase?

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  LHG: Paul mentioned that the local servants," captive gifts in men", using the "gifts of the spirit" were for the perfecting of the saints, so, we saw our service as work in progress, the rotating options as a way to learn some of that perfection (1000 years to go). now it is obedience to the next echelon above you, right or wrong,

  The article enshrined the one- man rule.
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-2-17 WT Study (January 2017)(ENTRUST)

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  blondie’s comments you will not hear at the april 2, 2017 wt study (january 2017) (entrust).

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-january-2017/these-things-entrust-to-faithful-men/ .

  excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

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  waton

  thank you blondie for your input, every congregation is different though. Here, there are younger ones, even long time servants with odd issues, that are seething to get the appointment. but entrenched brothers think that they are indispensable. Surprise would await them, because the arrangement might flourish, spring flower like with their departure.
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  whatever happened to rotation? wt study to April two.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  with all the emphasis on hierarchical succession in that wt, , what ever happened to mentioning of the refreshing, liberating "rotating of positions" period, the time of great increase?

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  waton

  They used to rotate the GB committees too. They discovered that some brothers were not equally capable, that not keeping those brothers in key positions created havoc.

  However, rotation did not work effectively and it was done away with in the 1983 Organized to Accomplish You Ministry, page 41. Blondie,

  Yes of course, in the natural process of competition, comfort, and delight in work, a good working arrangement would have been developed among the servants in the congregations prior to the change*** when possible, . but in an equal number of cases, latent talent was suppressed, discovered through rotation, and then later recognized by acclamation. and

  where does the idea come from that corporate efficience would be a model for a "New World Society"?.

  *** was it not only the fixed Congregation servant that was immune to removal before 1971?
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  whatever happened to rotation? wt study to April two.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  with all the emphasis on hierarchical succession in that wt, , what ever happened to mentioning of the refreshing, liberating "rotating of positions" period, the time of great increase?

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  waton

  That was also a reason for the huge exodus after the failure of 1975. A lot of JWs would have probably let the failed prophecy thing slide by, but the fact that "servants" were now overseers, mass purges were taking place throughout the organization, and every congregation saw more JWs leave or fade away. JV2

  very insightful thoughts . look it up, the big exodus was not in autumn 1075, but when the change to slave drivers was instituted. A more profound stratifying of adherents than the clergy / laity model of BTG.

  The word " serve" now is a corruption of the meaning, it should read "dominates", "governs" instead. the word "overseer" and "coordinator" does not even imply any service, work at all, only governance, with all it's prestige, entitlements , imho.
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  whatever happened to rotation? wt study to April two.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  with all the emphasis on hierarchical succession in that wt, , what ever happened to mentioning of the refreshing, liberating "rotating of positions" period, the time of great increase?

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  There never was a scriptural basis for it. SV:

  if I remeber right, the changing of the chairmanship between Peter and James in the first century GB*** discussion on the circumcision / blood question, that happened during prolonged interruptions prompted that.

  That was the then very convincing scriptural argument at the time, and allowed the manipulators to rotate a willing victim into the top job for the 1975 fiasco ; ha ha.

  In the context of today's watchtower it would have given a good lesson of getting all brothers exposure, experience to the different tasks, and relief from the stagnation that preceded that rotation too, when congregation servants were on the top for life.

  *** The only reference for "organisational" procedure inside a "body" I know of in the NT. bsw.
  
  
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  We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

  by lusitano o tuga in

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  2. humour

  see what bridget azaz did!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

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  because wt reverses everything.

  At the last supper, all the people with an earthly hope were served and commanded to eat & drink, "all of you !!!" but

  the only anointed present, Jesus, ate not, drank not at that point. . and thats the point, remember it!
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  whatever happened to rotation? wt study to April two.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  with all the emphasis on hierarchical succession in that wt, , what ever happened to mentioning of the refreshing, liberating "rotating of positions" period, the time of great increase?

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  waton

  with all the emphasis on hierarchical succession in that wt, , what ever happened to mentioning of the refreshing, liberating "rotating of positions" period, the time of great increase?
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  Observations From an Ex-Elder Part 3 - Searching for the Lost Sheep

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  "what man among you with 100 sheep, on losing one of them, will not leave the 99 behind in the wilderness and go after the lost one until he finds it?

  " - luke 15:4. disclaimer: by posting the following observations i am not complaining.

  i am happy to be left alone.

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  waton

  too busy with the 99 other sheep who remain in the fold to worry about "difficult" lost sheep d1799:

  no, too busy with the weekly weakening wt routine with a sense of fulfilled scheduled duty, perhaps even envying you, in your peaceful, stress free condition.

  How could they face you to encourage you, when they secretly long for the day they can get off the wt treadmill too?
  
  
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  Interesting take on John 3:16

  by NikL in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the superstar of all scriptures.

  for god so loved the world that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.. .

  but i just learned something about it.. i try to look at different translations of the bible and the lexham english bible words it a bit different.... 16 for in this way god loved the world, so that he gave his one and only son, in order that everyone who believes in him will not perish, but will have eternal life.

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  "--not be destroyed--", like not walking into the twirling swords god set up, angel powered.