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  A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

  and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

  in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.

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  waton

  Both Fisherman and wt writers contradict the scriptures, - the Jesus story.

  After all, about the end times generation He said in effect, that this generation will pass away after all has occurred.

  Fisherman says : no jesus, they will not pass away.

  wt writers say: no jesus, they (the anointed) will pass away before all has occurred, -----not as you said until (after) all has -(including the GT, judgement, Armageddon)- has occurred

  Fisherman's contradicting new light is that the OS are anointed. wt take note! stock up on crackers and wine.
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  A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

  and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

  in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.

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  waton

  Where in scripture do you find Christians who are not in the New Covenant, not entitled to partake

  wt is so ego- centered that they can not see that all members of the 12 tribes of the "israel of god" are in the new covenant, for forgiveness of sins,

  that is not the kingdom covenant.

  all memorial talk always lack the proof scriptures that the kingdom covenant holders only are also exclusively in the general new covenant, that jump over the chasm between the kingdom covenant and new covenant is always an astonishing flaw. .

  Even if there is an Earthly or exoplanet hope, partaking is still one of the universally christian ritual, as is baptism minus the organisation bit, a detail that jesus never mentioned, in fact discouraged.
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  A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

  and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

  in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.

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  waton

  Who says there are only 144 000 places•

  Rev 14:3 limited#

  Fm: right, that description is limited to the environment around the "Lamb". Surely you are not ignorant of the vast areas and timeframes of "heavenly" happenings ? not to speak of the other open biblical heavens, the bird's domain and the cosmos, from which "satan" is expelled, but that is being explored by his subjects?

  The heavens are not limited to the 144 000. but

  like the mothers of james and John, in Jesus day, wt likes to think it can stack that limited area around Jesus with its adherents.

  sacrificial death is required (Rev,20) , not partaking. all should slurp and nibble, . jesus served it to all, all earthly hopers. (even he had the right to life on earth, that he sacrificed).
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  A new generation of anointed that will not pass away.

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  obviously, the older “ anointed ” from 1914 died.

  and because they were anointed, they hopefully went to heaven.

  in the first century though, a newer generation did not replace the old.

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  waton

  Since the heavenly hope was the only “calling” throughout the centuries

  Fm: really? Peter, the rock, wrote of "awaiting a New heaven and a NEW EARTH."

  At the last supper, Jesus served the emblems to people with an earthly hope. billions partook since, the fact that they did not believe in the overlapping groups does not matter. Wt doctrine, or any amalgam of it, is erroneous and irrelevant to the great universal scheme.

  With "heaven" having so many meanings, how about a material heavenly hope, seeding life on trillions of heavenly bodies with heavenly (perfect} bodies, carrying proven good qualities from the experience here, -- revived there?

  Who says there are only 144 000 places ? that elite numbers is just the Groom's entourage (wherever he goes) There were already millions and millions of angels, , and possible places (many mansions) for that many more newcomers.

  imho. you are taking this house of cards structure of the talking snake story too seriously. The magnificent universe before us tells a more glorious picture than that pathetic tale's denouement. .
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  Geographical inaccuracies you cant shake

  by GabeAthouse in

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  where your mental image of a place does not match up with where you intellectually know it actually is?

  1. great britain: i always picture it to the west of france.

  if i'm reading about the norman invasion or d-day i always see it in my head as crossing the channel east-west / west-east.

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  waton

  what waton meant is, that part south America is in the northern hemisphere.
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  Geographical inaccuracies you cant shake

  by GabeAthouse in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  where your mental image of a place does not match up with where you intellectually know it actually is?

  1. great britain: i always picture it to the west of france.

  if i'm reading about the norman invasion or d-day i always see it in my head as crossing the channel east-west / west-east.

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  waton

  Colombia, Venezuela, Panama are in the southern hemisphere. not so.

  Warwick is in upstate New York, not so, it is more of suburb/exurb of NY city, the extreme south of the state.
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  Geographical inaccuracies you cant shake

  by GabeAthouse in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  where your mental image of a place does not match up with where you intellectually know it actually is?

  1. great britain: i always picture it to the west of france.

  if i'm reading about the norman invasion or d-day i always see it in my head as crossing the channel east-west / west-east.

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  waton

  Denmark (Greenland) followed by France.

  yea right, not Paris but St Pierre and Miquelon.
  
  
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  The day the music died.

  by Fisherman in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  is there any new music or singers whatsoever nowadays or just junk?

  and how about movies, besides documentaries is there anything at all, any movie at all, any new actor at all that that has any real worth to watch and enjoy or is it all a boring waste of time.

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  waton

  Music ? To me the forties , fifties and sixties were the best years to listen to

  new "music"? oldies: adios, perfidia.
  
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  Is burying someone on a golf course tacky?

  by GabeAthouse in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  trump's first wife and mother of his children died recently.

  they had her buried on his golf course.

  do you think this is tacky or a savvy business move since it'll now get them some tax breaks as a cemetery?.

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  waton

  you would certainly enterre ashes wherever you liked. I am all for private burial grounds it is biblical. harmless.
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  Is burying someone on a golf course tacky?

  by GabeAthouse in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  trump's first wife and mother of his children died recently.

  they had her buried on his golf course.

  do you think this is tacky or a savvy business move since it'll now get them some tax breaks as a cemetery?.

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  waton

  I wish here in these neck of the woods, they would open up these golf areas for burial, for lack of space in the full cemetary. what a nice manicured lawn to be laid to rest, and people having a ball over your remains, not just your beneficiaries. ( not wt inc btw. )