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  The WT has failed to explain fundamental doctrines

  by Kosonen in

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  sadly the wt failed to teach fundamental biblical doctrines.

  i did never really understand the doctrine about ransom while i was still in the congregation.. i did not either understand what it really means that "god is love" as stated in the bible.

  i did not either understand from the wt what is love.

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  waton

  YOU JUST HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION. the same goes for the overlapping groups in the 1914 generation. David Splane clearly explained it well, with charts even, and real flesh and blood examples like Frederick Franz. and even older anointed ones.

  2 centenarians make 200 years, starting to partake, overlap by 20 years each, make 40 years, NET total 160 years. plus 1914 = 2074 plus 1 year of shortened GT after rapture of anointed,= 2075. Armageddon time. minus 100 =1975. perfect timing.

  what wt has not explained yet, is, how the anointed generation dies at the onset of the great tribulation, but also after all has occurred.
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  The WT has failed to explain fundamental doctrines

  by Kosonen in

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  2. friends

  sadly the wt failed to teach fundamental biblical doctrines.

  i did never really understand the doctrine about ransom while i was still in the congregation.. i did not either understand what it really means that "god is love" as stated in the bible.

  i did not either understand from the wt what is love.

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  waton

  The ransom was explained, paid on The Passover ( with the lamb) presented to the provider/ demander deity after the 40 days after the ascension into the clouds, , and acknowledged on the return trip, 10 days later at Pentecost when the spirit, like flames/shine was given. Wt added the twist that 2075+ 1000 years later the rest of the ransomed fallen humans will have the benefits of the purchase price too.

  All that because of the talking snake. snake oil?. churches teach it too, with variations.
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  Simple Question Re 1914

  by Slidin Fast in

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  wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

  and the end times.

  a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

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  waton

  any point within space can be described by coordinates, all of time exists as well and any events that have happened or will happen already exist, described by their own coordinates within the universe

  DJW, yes, for example I expect to be in upstate NY on April8 2024, at 3 pm, together with the shadow of the Moon, but do you believe that all that already exists?
  
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  Simple Question Re 1914

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

  and the end times.

  a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

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  waton

  --the idea that the past still exists, --- the idea that the past still exists-- DJW

  Time as such always existed, stretching into the eternal past, and already extends into the eternal future, because

  Energy can not be created or be destroyed, and it obviously needs time to exist in, eternally. but, we have travelled from our past into the present, toward our future time, so,

  our past does not exist anymore nor does our particular future yet either. Lots of light and sound is still on the way from the past though, and we will continue to receive it from the now empty past, some of it 13 billion years old, -- all from an now empty past.

  As for the eternal ESP domain, wait for a message.

  enJoy.
  
  
  
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  Wedding Anniversary

  by BoogerMan in

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  to celebrate our wedding anniversary, i booked the best table i could get for me and the mrs., but she didn't appreciate my efforts.

  i was sure she'd played snooker before.

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  waton

  yeah, clinging / clicking the balls together.
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  “This generation will by no means pass away.”

  by Fisherman in

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  for argument sake let’s assume that this verse should apply to 1914. what are your thoughts on generation?.

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  waton

  unrepeatable localized tribulation. ( bold added)

  Vdh, good point, after the localized flood, the localized creation event ( including the Earth in the Big Bang Gen.1;1) the local high mountain that had all the kingdom of the Earth within the horizon, and on and on.

  publicized by persons with reach in the western world, who believe they will govern the universe, trillions of light years in size.
  
  
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  “This generation will by no means pass away.”

  by Fisherman in

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  for argument sake let’s assume that this verse should apply to 1914. what are your thoughts on generation?.

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  waton

  I don't believe that this generations applies to 1914 at all.

  I second that. It is contradictory that Satan would be confined on the solid Earth, while since 1914, the whole world ( "that lies in the power of the wicked one" cited again at this week's meeting) is becoming more and more adapt at committing levitation, our sensing devices even having left the solar system.

  If the deity ever shuts down the global destruction, i'll mark that date.
  
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  “This generation will by no means pass away.”

  by Fisherman in

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  for argument sake let’s assume that this verse should apply to 1914. what are your thoughts on generation?.

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  waton

  The wording also means, that once all the events listed, like "the tribulation greater than the world has ever seen", have occurred during that special generation, it's members, will pass away, die.

  The generation is not the anointed, wt's favoured, because they pass away at the onset, not after the end of the end times.

  It can not be the wt's sheep either, because they are supposed to never pass away at all, even after the end generation has run out of time.

  In our family, 4 generations have appeared, and generated since 1914, and counting.

  wt's . core doctrine since 1914: In this generation, Millions now living will never die, is an empty promise, false prophecy, profitable may be, but patently false. pft.
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  Why are Jehovah's Witnesses determined to be WRONG (about saying JUH-HO-VUH and JEE-Suss)?

  by Terry in

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  all throughout history in greek, hebrew, and latin languages - there was no j sound!

  no jay sound.. .

  why did christians start using a non-hebrew name for the son of god?

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  waton

  BECAUSE IN GERMAN, J is pronounced like Y.

  Terry, not so, the Y in the european languages is pronounced like in ueber,

  the end of the alphabet : ex why zee (zet), sounds there : ex uebsilon* tzet. see also Ypres.

  Important too that jesus never used the name when addressing the father. recording it would be of utmost importance if it mattered.

  * umlaut u"
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  The Genesis 3:15 woman.

  by Fisherman in

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  genesis 3:15 says that the woman’s seed would be in enmity with the serpent’s seed.

  although the bible reveals that the woman’s seed is jesus and christians that go to heaven with christ, it does not identify the woman directly.

  we at jw believe that the woman is symbolic.

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  waton

  the actual character from the story in Genesis. ‘Mitochondrial Eve’ : Jeffro

  no misrepresentation here. I thought it was just fitting that the scientists would use the mystical ladies
  of genesis in their nomenclature.

  Good point about the single primitive male the "son of Adam" too, he was found to reside in the former Soviet Union territory, probably still is.