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  Simple Question Re 1914

  by Slidin Fast in

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  wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

  and the end times.

  a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

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  waton

  --the idea that the past still exists, --- the idea that the past still exists-- DJW

  Time as such always existed, stretching into the eternal past, and already extends into the eternal future, because

  Energy can not be created or be destroyed, and it obviously needs time to exist in, eternally. but, we have travelled from our past into the present, toward our future time, so,

  our past does not exist anymore nor does our particular future yet either. Lots of light and sound is still on the way from the past though, and we will continue to receive it from the now empty past, some of it 13 billion years old, -- all from an now empty past.

  As for the eternal ESP domain, wait for a message.

  enJoy.
  
  
  
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  Wedding Anniversary

  by BoogerMan in

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  to celebrate our wedding anniversary, i booked the best table i could get for me and the mrs., but she didn't appreciate my efforts.

  i was sure she'd played snooker before.

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  waton

  yeah, clinging / clicking the balls together.
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  “This generation will by no means pass away.”

  by Fisherman in

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  for argument sake let’s assume that this verse should apply to 1914. what are your thoughts on generation?.

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  waton

  unrepeatable localized tribulation. ( bold added)

  Vdh, good point, after the localized flood, the localized creation event ( including the Earth in the Big Bang Gen.1;1) the local high mountain that had all the kingdom of the Earth within the horizon, and on and on.

  publicized by persons with reach in the western world, who believe they will govern the universe, trillions of light years in size.
  
  
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  “This generation will by no means pass away.”

  by Fisherman in

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  for argument sake let’s assume that this verse should apply to 1914. what are your thoughts on generation?.

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  waton

  I don't believe that this generations applies to 1914 at all.

  I second that. It is contradictory that Satan would be confined on the solid Earth, while since 1914, the whole world ( "that lies in the power of the wicked one" cited again at this week's meeting) is becoming more and more adapt at committing levitation, our sensing devices even having left the solar system.

  If the deity ever shuts down the global destruction, i'll mark that date.
  
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  “This generation will by no means pass away.”

  by Fisherman in

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  for argument sake let’s assume that this verse should apply to 1914. what are your thoughts on generation?.

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  waton

  The wording also means, that once all the events listed, like "the tribulation greater than the world has ever seen", have occurred during that special generation, it's members, will pass away, die.

  The generation is not the anointed, wt's favoured, because they pass away at the onset, not after the end of the end times.

  It can not be the wt's sheep either, because they are supposed to never pass away at all, even after the end generation has run out of time.

  In our family, 4 generations have appeared, and generated since 1914, and counting.

  wt's . core doctrine since 1914: In this generation, Millions now living will never die, is an empty promise, false prophecy, profitable may be, but patently false. pft.
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  Why are Jehovah's Witnesses determined to be WRONG (about saying JUH-HO-VUH and JEE-Suss)?

  by Terry in

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  all throughout history in greek, hebrew, and latin languages - there was no j sound!

  no jay sound.. .

  why did christians start using a non-hebrew name for the son of god?

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  waton

  BECAUSE IN GERMAN, J is pronounced like Y.

  Terry, not so, the Y in the european languages is pronounced like in ueber,

  the end of the alphabet : ex why zee (zet), sounds there : ex uebsilon* tzet. see also Ypres.

  Important too that jesus never used the name when addressing the father. recording it would be of utmost importance if it mattered.

  * umlaut u"
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  The Genesis 3:15 woman.

  by Fisherman in

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  genesis 3:15 says that the woman’s seed would be in enmity with the serpent’s seed.

  although the bible reveals that the woman’s seed is jesus and christians that go to heaven with christ, it does not identify the woman directly.

  we at jw believe that the woman is symbolic.

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  waton

  the actual character from the story in Genesis. ‘Mitochondrial Eve’ : Jeffro

  no misrepresentation here. I thought it was just fitting that the scientists would use the mystical ladies
  of genesis in their nomenclature.

  Good point about the single primitive male the "son of Adam" too, he was found to reside in the former Soviet Union territory, probably still is.
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  The Genesis 3:15 woman.

  by Fisherman in

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  genesis 3:15 says that the woman’s seed would be in enmity with the serpent’s seed.

  although the bible reveals that the woman’s seed is jesus and christians that go to heaven with christ, it does not identify the woman directly.

  we at jw believe that the woman is symbolic.

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  waton

  Because Eve did not produce the seed, the Messiah, that would crush the serpent’s head.Also, a sinful imperfect woman cannot produce a perfect seed let alone any woman producing seed

  Eve was to become the mother of all those humans living on Earth and she did. grand grandly.

  All connected with the imaginary lady in the OP, where of the genetic pool of the first female. including noah, judah, david, Mary, jesus, Fr. Franz.
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  The Genesis 3:15 woman.

  by Fisherman in

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  genesis 3:15 says that the woman’s seed would be in enmity with the serpent’s seed.

  although the bible reveals that the woman’s seed is jesus and christians that go to heaven with christ, it does not identify the woman directly.

  we at jw believe that the woman is symbolic.

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  waton

  Because Eve did not produce the seed, the Messiah, that would crush the serpent’s head.

  fisherman, yes she did, no human, and all the linage you talk about somehow has a human connection, exits without the genetic contribution of the first lady.

  Workers in that field traced all humans through the widely dispersed, well traveled "5 daughter of Eve", check it out.

  science will triumph over fantasies.
  
  
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  WHEN is the Kingdom of God coming?

  by Fisherman in

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  when is the kingdom of god coming?.

  on being asked by the pharisees when the kingdom of god was coming, he answered them: “the kingdom of god is not coming with paratherisis; 21 nor will people say, ‘see here!’ or, ‘there!’ for look!

  the kingdom of god is in your midst.” —lu 17:20,21. .

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  waton

  So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

  right, the moment you start speculating and publish your fantasies as wt does, you are guaranteed to be wrong. current example:

  wt proclaimed that the anointed generation will pass to heaven at the onset of the great tribulation.-- guaranteed to be wrong, because jesus said they would pass only after everything predicted is done and over with.

  like the kingdom song has it: "The kingdom is here, let it come let it come."