Posts by waton

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

waton

It is only logical that during the parausia it would be just like all these previous times. So here we are 108 years later born in to when the preaching work began. So

fisherman, only persons born ~ < 1900 could be held accountable to not respond to the 1914 erroneous wt proposals.

There is therefore something absolutely wrong to the parallels with the present, you and wt refer to.

Only parallel, overlapping groups are now trotted out to save face. but face it: the wt prediction game as inspired truth, or a spirit directed group is over.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

waton

swept away by armageddon? surely applies to the anointed but by the same token 1914 must also apply to those that take no note.

The way wt applied 1914 to the then anointed was to promise them the last supper on earth, and breakfast in heaven. date was right (all are), promise wrong, premise wrong too.

what were those that "took note" supposed do? advertise the talk: " The world has ended, Millions now Living will never die" and be saved by / because that wt work? btw:

the anointed will not be swept away by armageddon, but swept upward at the outset of the Great Tribulation according to wt's latest light.
By contrast Jesus promised them survival of the end, the great tribulation.

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WHEN is the Kingdom of God coming?

by Fisherman in

when is the kingdom of god coming?.

on being asked by the pharisees when the kingdom of god was coming, he answered them: “the kingdom of god is not coming with paratherisis; 21 nor will people say, ‘see here!’ or, ‘there!’ for look!

the kingdom of god is in your midst.” —lu 17:20,21. .

waton

arrival (WHEN).

With some wt writers priding themselves as latter day members of the original "governing body" class, it follows that the injunction, that "it is not given to you to understand time and timings" given to the original 11, applies to the governing body today. . That assumption is proven by their 100% failure rate on that subject matter.

What is bring red into Daniel could apply to that exclusion note too.

Hopefully something better will rise from the ashes, Dinosaurs sudden demise proves an encouraging precedent.

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WHEN is the Kingdom of God coming?

by Fisherman in

when is the kingdom of god coming?.

on being asked by the pharisees when the kingdom of god was coming, he answered them: “the kingdom of god is not coming with paratherisis; 21 nor will people say, ‘see here!’ or, ‘there!’ for look!

the kingdom of god is in your midst.” —lu 17:20,21. .

waton

Jesus' followers asked a similar question, as recorded in Acts 1: 6. Time and timing is the domain of the creator/father.

The universe is ruled with very successful laws. Jerusalem, ~ 2000 years ago was no exception, --stories of breaches of these laws, better defined now than then, such as walking on water, water turning into wine, cemeteries emptied, -- notwithstanding.

As written by Luke, Jesus was stating the obvious.

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Watchtower's NEW Legal Learning Studio

by Newly Enlightened in

https://youtu.be/qn4z2uzsabm.

waton

They even have their own home grown legal personnel, the Mac Ewan youngster. Who says wt is against higher education? , might even make it onto the cover of Mac Leans, Time magazine.

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How To Talk About Interpretation With Jehovah's Witnesses.

by Vanderhoven7 in

this from my book: good news for jehovah's witnesses.

before we discuss any doctrinal issues, i would like to distinguish between what i believe is proper versus improper interpretive practice.... so you know what i can accept as biblical and what i can't accept.. basic guidelines for validating doctrinal claims`).

i. there must be at least one scriptural reference that can be cited for support of any doctrinal claim or position.. ii.

waton

They often cite their door-to-dor fieldwork ministry as "good works" when in fact they are spreading an extra-biblical gospel which is foreign to scripture. There are no rewards for that. VDHo

wt cites the sheep and goat judgment , as deeds done to "Christ brothers" but that was to the least, of anonymous ones, and true humanitarian tasks only, not for the adored bigwigs in Brooklyn / Warwick, in their sales campaigns.

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Are You Concerned About Inflation?

by Simon in

i saw a statistic the other day that something like 25% of all the debt that the us has incurred since 1776 was created in the last 12 months.

that's because they have printed so much currency and instead of letting that stop them, they are going to continue printing more to go on a spending spree on crazy green-new-deal schemes and union handouts.. does anyone think that this can be anything other than inflationary?

they are effectively stealing the wealth of everyone to then hand money out to people.

waton

yes I am worried, have to pay the house taxes this month, went from $4 000 to $5 000, 25% inflated. In the meantime the bank pays me 2% on the accounts.

bananas are still bargains though, and so is fixed rate borrowing.

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Aussies closed all the coal power plants...now we have blackouts no electricity!

by Witness 007 in

so we have been "green" blowing up all our coal power plants now they are saying we are like north korea...expect regular power blackouts.

who is running this show?.

waton

It is the coal that is exported and burned that is polluting and warming the planet. A Manhattan Project - style effort to create passive cool building codes, energy storage, would go a long way, to make it work .locally

Australia is so well endowed for this work, sun, empty space, and of course already is first in using wave power. surf[ing] is up.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

waton

How true. And our interpretation of the Bible and of Bible prophecy is also progressive like solving a crossword puzzle. Our algorithm is to use the Bible to interpret the Bible. bold added

Fisher, man : good analogy! imagine a crossword puzzle where the wrong words are weekly printed, and readers are threatened with eternal death if they do not buy into that current, but guarantied false picture. and are weakly taught to teach theses falsehoods to others. and,

wt's 100% failure rate on predictive prophecy must show you that there is something seriously wrong with your algorithm.

Try math, science instead. and the good, and well meaning suggestions in all the correspondence you have received over the years. (from the "Joseph" class.) remember the outcome.

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Are JWs preaching Paul's Gospel or something beyond Paul's Gospel?

by Vanderhoven7 in

paul's gospel: .

now, brothers and sisters, i want to remind you of the gospel i preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand.

2 by this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word i preached to you.

waton

There are very few damnable heresies and NONE of them are found in JW'S.: Jammer

jammer, give examples please.

we like to jamm it up, but without "katzenjammer."