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  2022 - 1914 = ?

  by fedup in

  1. watchtower
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  obviously not the orgs brightest moment for teaching that the generation of 1914 would be alive to see paradise.

  forget the "new light" that bought them an extra 100 years, which if any other religion would've done this, the org would scream false religion.

  the fact is that for 75 years this #1 recruiting message from the society was a lie.. i asked a current jw to get a calculator and do the math: 2022 - 1914 = an angry reaction.

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  waton

  Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen. - Matt 24:34 NWT

  tbn: so, the generation has to pass away after armageddon right? or?

  well the 1914 generation of wt writers are now the anointed, partakers. but,

  when do the anointed have to pass to heaven, according to wt prophecy? think about it, they will fight at the battle,so"

  for anointed partakers, the onset of the great tribulation is the latest for rapture time

  the wt generation prophecy is so bad it does not allow time for Armageddon, their most pivotal event, when comparing jesus to wt wording .
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  2022 - 1914 = ?

  by fedup in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  obviously not the orgs brightest moment for teaching that the generation of 1914 would be alive to see paradise.

  forget the "new light" that bought them an extra 100 years, which if any other religion would've done this, the org would scream false religion.

  the fact is that for 75 years this #1 recruiting message from the society was a lie.. i asked a current jw to get a calculator and do the math: 2022 - 1914 = an angry reaction.

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  waton

  fu: current jws do not do analysis. but wt writers have dug themselves into an even deeper mess, when they declared the generation to be the anointed.

  That meant that at the starting point of 1914 they had to be at least 21 year olds like Fr. Franz's example -- to be counted, as D. Splane pointed out.

  Only a few Okinawans, Sardinians and southern France lady citizens would make it past the year 2000. none of them the stressed jw faithful, putting in 15 minutes per month.
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  Is it okey to express your love for Jesus currently as a Jehovah's witness?

  by Kosonen in

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  is it okey to express your love for jesus as a jehovah's witness?.

  it should be, even though it would lift some eyebrows in the congregation.

  let's see what jesus said:.

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  waton

  Is it because JESUS knew that his name was,--salvation--. bolds added

  S3, are you arguing that Jesus hid the most holy Name, even in his private conversations, to push his own name into later prominence, but wt promoted the father's name later?

  imho, the Jesus character is depicted as highly respective of the holy name, him even using "eli" in his last plea to heavens. Eli sounding to me very similar to the later term allah.
  
  
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  Is it okey to express your love for Jesus currently as a Jehovah's witness?

  by Kosonen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is it okey to express your love for jesus as a jehovah's witness?.

  it should be, even though it would lift some eyebrows in the congregation.

  let's see what jesus said:.

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  waton

  I love the way Jesus never used the Name of his father, as in the text you cited and all others.
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  Shocking Letter Reveals Jehovah's Witnesses True Beliefs! - YouTube 'xjw curious'

  by Mace.Bean in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  youtube's 'xjw curious,' pete corbeil, reads proselytizing letter written by a pimo jw who simply shares current watchtower teachings like no other jw.

  use google drive link below to print your own copies of this letter.

  (114) shocking letter reveals jehovah's witnesses true beliefs!

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  waton

  it took 10 days from Jesus' ascension to Pentecost to get confirmation that message to & from heaven had been received (the ransom value).

  It took wt writer ~30+ years to discover and correct/ reverse their bloober on the superior authorities.
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  Shocking Letter Reveals Jehovah's Witnesses True Beliefs! - YouTube 'xjw curious'

  by Mace.Bean in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  youtube's 'xjw curious,' pete corbeil, reads proselytizing letter written by a pimo jw who simply shares current watchtower teachings like no other jw.

  use google drive link below to print your own copies of this letter.

  (114) shocking letter reveals jehovah's witnesses true beliefs!

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  waton

  are you saying that now JWs only study the WT magazines (digital ones) while at the kingdom hall, and that none obtain paper copies

  DJW. no, I am talking about the quick revisions that happened in the 50s and 60s, we bound our own volumes to retain the unabridged juicy stuff. Today some seem to still have wt paper copies but also being on zoom. Moscow's pravda or twitter et all are not the only variable truths available, it is alive and well in the brave wt " New World Society."
  
  
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  Shocking Letter Reveals Jehovah's Witnesses True Beliefs! - YouTube 'xjw curious'

  by Mace.Bean in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  youtube's 'xjw curious,' pete corbeil, reads proselytizing letter written by a pimo jw who simply shares current watchtower teachings like no other jw.

  use google drive link below to print your own copies of this letter.

  (114) shocking letter reveals jehovah's witnesses true beliefs!

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  waton

  ThomasMore, by "they are redacting former writing as fast as they can" what exactly do you mean DJW,

  Even if you have bound volumes, they will not read as the wts that were "studied" verbatim at the KH. In one instant on "porneia", it had all changed even before the foreign language copies were distributed.
  
  
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  What are the benefits of doubts?

  by psyco in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what are the benefits of having created the human mind being able to have doubts inside (or regarding) the true religion (jude 22)?.

  because if you have doubts, you are not sure, so it is difficult to believe and trust.

  and if it is difficult to believe and trust, it is even more difficult to have faith since it is the "assured" expectation of what is hoped for (hebrews 11:1).

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  waton

  For example, 'I doubt I can take that hairpin bend at 100 miles an hour'. jjj

  right, many aeroplanes stall at that speed in a turn. and spin in.
  
  
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  What are the benefits of doubts?

  by psyco in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what are the benefits of having created the human mind being able to have doubts inside (or regarding) the true religion (jude 22)?.

  because if you have doubts, you are not sure, so it is difficult to believe and trust.

  and if it is difficult to believe and trust, it is even more difficult to have faith since it is the "assured" expectation of what is hoped for (hebrews 11:1).

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  waton

  
  Sea Breeze21 minutes agoI doubt there is any real benefit.

  do not be too sure. If you doubt that the scriptures are more than just that, the best that men could write at the time, you will be protected from the inevatible realisation, or lack of it, that your confidence was misplaced.

  I f you doubt, you will act with enough restrain and have taken a position to fall back on at all times.

  without a doubt, doubting will double your decisions to be a-droit, right, one day.
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  What are the benefits of doubts?

  by psyco in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what are the benefits of having created the human mind being able to have doubts inside (or regarding) the true religion (jude 22)?.

  because if you have doubts, you are not sure, so it is difficult to believe and trust.

  and if it is difficult to believe and trust, it is even more difficult to have faith since it is the "assured" expectation of what is hoped for (hebrews 11:1).

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  waton

  doubt, in french "doute". interesting when I looked up "doubt" in Einstein's mother tongue. " Zweifel" from

  "Zwei" =, 2, two. , like in second opinion. scepticism. It carries the thought that the present idea is just not the right one, but there is a better one available. then there is

  "Verzweifeln" verb, to give up, to be distressed about the current situation, troubled in doubt, with a certainty that the course is wrong beyond redress. so,

  applying this to the wt package of truthfacts , all based on the talking snake saga, You can give the benefit of a doubt to some of the kind souls in the association of br/ sisters, but you can verzweifeln, totally give up in desperation as to the current teachings. let them/ prod them to wake up.