Posts by waton

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I pioneered brothers parked their BMW and got aride in my 20 year old car?? No support.

by Witness 007 in

so i pioneered for 10 years in the 1990's it was 90 hours a month with alot of country driving.

i was shocked when brothers and sisters with full time jobs would park their brand new cars and go witnessing in my 20 year old orange datsun.

i was barely living on $250 a week as a yeah...window cleaner.

waton

I got criticized for turning corners too fast

LHG: what was your reply? here is mine:

sorry friend, I have a phobia about slow turns from my pre- wt piloting days. Most people get killed in airplane crashes for stalling in a turn, buying the farm by spinning in. its fundamental. also

Br. waton, do you believe in the resurrection? me: "of course I do, its fundamental" then,

" Br. waton, please slow down, I like to avoid the resurrection as much as possible, just a hope after all.

back to marriage: at least, wt and other religions mandate that commitment, punish free fun as sin, so there is this very strong hormone driven home seeking ( banding a man to the house ) clause, that so strongly drives the marriage imperative. dont knock it.

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5 years ago they were 25, now they hit the BIG 30-----and still single---jw girls.

by pistolpete in

experience from reddit.

i’m in my mid 20’s but i’m noticing alot of sisters that are 35, 40 and just kind of lost.

single, still live at home or heavily dependent on parents because they have measly jobs.

waton

It's those who have figured it out that finding someone who loves you for YOU---- and not some imaginary Brad Pitt or Freddy Franz that have a changce of a life long marriage.

PP. If the gift of the gab, that gets you on the convention platform, is the catalyst to make you appealing to a trophy wife, what is wrong with that?. I have seen happy marriages between seemingly mismatched partners, smallish men and fully grown and developed women. love never fails.[to last]

Imagine the benefit for the jws, if Frederick the Great would have learned the ropes and tied the knot and forgotten, and not get tangled up in all the doctrinal stuff?

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I pioneered brothers parked their BMW and got aride in my 20 year old car?? No support.

by Witness 007 in

so i pioneered for 10 years in the 1990's it was 90 hours a month with alot of country driving.

i was shocked when brothers and sisters with full time jobs would park their brand new cars and go witnessing in my 20 year old orange datsun.

i was barely living on $250 a week as a yeah...window cleaner.

waton

w7, you lived in luxury how about as a special pioneer ca, 1960, 150 hours a month, 45.- a month wt support, and spending most of the time in a beetle, no aircon in summer, barely any heat in the winter. no fuel gage to remind passenger it is gas up time.

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5 years ago they were 25, now they hit the BIG 30-----and still single---jw girls.

by pistolpete in

experience from reddit.

i’m in my mid 20’s but i’m noticing alot of sisters that are 35, 40 and just kind of lost.

single, still live at home or heavily dependent on parents because they have measly jobs.

waton

this is a great topic. wish I could help the lonely hearts.

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Administering a Blood Transfusion When Directed by a Superior- Jehovah's Witness Policy

by Ron.W. in

administering a blood transfusion when directed by a superior - jehovah's witness policy effective june 15th, 2018. while the hospital liasion committee elders were instructed that they may inform doctors and nurses of this decision, this letter was not allowed to be distributed to anyone outside of hlc members.. as a result of the concealment of this letter, and by virtue of the fact that this information was only to be shared verbally with jehovah's witness medical professionals and others, confusion erupted across the united states and in other branch offices of jehovah's witnesses.

countless letters were received at watchtower headquarters in new york from concerned jw nurses, paramedics, and others who were instructed verbally on this new policy, but which contradicted existing written policy that had been in effect for many decades.. in addition to letters from witness medical professionals, circuit overseers in the field wrote to the us branch and hospital information desk in new york about the problems caused by this unreleased policy.

for example, south carolina circuit overseer brandon roberts reported to headquarters that "the majority of the nurses in our circuit were not aware of this updated policy.

waton

How do JW doctors handle it when in a circumstance where a transfusion is regarded as necessary to be recommended? nbd

have your reluctance to work in that field be known, and pass on the duty to someone who will do it, and collect the income associated with the billing. (just my uninformed thought)

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Watchtower Dishonesty aka Theocratic Warfare

by Vanderhoven7 in

i would like to collect as many instances of watchtower dishonesty and pretense as possible.

here is one from a bulgarian as an example of what i'm looking for.. are jehovah's witnesses disfellowshipped for receiving blood in a hospital?.

helge fauskanger writes: "if witnesses can’t convince the elders that they are utterly “repentant” for this vampiric lapse of theirs, they will be held to have disassociated themselves from the religion — even if they never said a word about wanting to leave it!

waton

any involvement of draft dodging, voting are never disfellowshipping procedures either, always the member is dis- membered after personal decision his/hers yes/or no, stance resigned. re-assigned to the other, satan's side.

not buying the citizenship card in Malawi was personal decision too.

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ENOCH & the Watchtower Society

by Honesty in

genesis 5.

5 so all the days of adam that he lived amounted to nine hundred and thirty years and he died.

8 so all the days of seth amounted to nine hundred and twelve years and he died.

waton

wt says that others, in ours, the last days (names withheld to protect the innocent), will not be found either, disposed off by angels, like the remains of Jesus.

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1995 generation change

by Gorb in

jw
friends

now, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.

it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.

with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.

waton

still, the great crowd can not be the generation, or overlapping groups of the approved sheep in math 25, who supported Jesus' brothers, and as a reward go off into everlasting life .

why?

jesus said that the generation that sees the terrible end, worse than the deluge, will pass away after the end.!!!

You dont just pass away if you have already entered everlasting life, like the [other] sheep. ergo:

by definition: The last generation are neither the anointed nor the other sheep, and

it certainly did not have to overlap prior to 70 CE.

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Blood Transfusions & Flood, Questions from Bible student only

by Marbles in

i was never a jdubb, only a bible student.

there are two main questions i have.

let me preface that by saying that i do not believe the bible is true, or the word of god.

waton

Since the lifeblood is so central to the sin/atonement idea of religionists,

In the bible story, how did the vegetarians in the pre-flood area like Abel procure the needed sacrificial " choice fatty pieces "? were they just raiding the heaps of dead animals? even cats and dogs did not eat that meat.

Think about the flood, in the ark, one pair each, except 7 of the clean, herbivores all. good, imagine 9 month worth of dog, cat, lion, tiger foods. and the pile of results of their digestion. May be they had a walk on loo grating overhanging the deck.( not shown in pictures), precursor to the pegs for the millions in the desert.

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Blood Transfusions & Flood, Questions from Bible student only

by Marbles in

i was never a jdubb, only a bible student.

there are two main questions i have.

let me preface that by saying that i do not believe the bible is true, or the word of god.

waton

f: JW believe that and personally conclude that on their own.

very few JWs would come to the wt beliefs on their own, they are led carefully into the trap of controlled thinking. It is a circular argument to try to will the truth onto a matter by the delusion of so many. and dont counter with wt's "mental picture" explanation. no high mountain required, can be done in the basement.

coming back to the OP. the "Flood"

Jesus, the son of David, endorsed that event, by making it a parallel to the coming end. As a co-creator of the Universe and its laws and a carpenter, he must have known, that a small family business, using bronze age tool, could not possibly have constructed a vessel this size, Able to carry that full load, withstand for 9 month the immense stresses of rain and currents that swirled, rose at 10 meter an hour for 40 days.

It was time to set the record straight, not dignify a fable with the mantle of scriptural truth, absolute, unquestionable facts. ditto

The Messiah's conversation with Satan, the flat earth advocate, showing all the Earth's mighty kingdoms, far away. on a clear day, from a high mountain. It was time to give satan (and bible readers) a lesson in spherical geometry, dispel the error, the adversary's

false promise based on a fallacious premise. so,

yes wt, like some bible writers will equate their pronouncements with the word coming from god, them being that god, always at the disadvantage of the duped.