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  An upcoming Watchtower article saying if people Pioneer Jehovah will provide!

  by LongHairGal in

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  i saw the post on reddit and the thread got many responses..can anybody believe the religion is still saying this??

  it has to be as plain as day that so many jws are poor and struggling today because they never got a career or decent job years ago.. sadly, there are still witnesses who believe money will fall from heaven if they are in the full-time ministry.

  they expect some miracle to occur..but, we all know the truth: people in the congregation will be hit up for yet more money for another bunch of irresponsible people pursuing poverty.

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  waton

  wt has been very adept to use "satan's" system to further its ends, taxfree, subsidies, freedom laws; now the internet.

  With many countries eyeing guaranteed income, and through various means effectively providing it now, especially for the elderly, newcomers,

  i is quite possible to live a "pioneer's life", in many places. ( but what would you actually do, accomplish?) and

  "satan" can argue for an extension of his term, or overlapping termination dates, for providing so generously to the universal sovereignty issue.
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  Adam & Eve: Perfect but not everlasting life?

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i was watching annual meeting.

  towards the end of jackson’s talk, he says: .

  “perfection doesn’t automatically means someone will get everlasting life.

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  waton

  they know they will live forever when they are given immortality. sbf:

  that is the scary part, that partakers both lowly and at the pinnacle, will be given untrammeled reign, never to be stopped again.
  
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  Adam & Eve: Perfect but not everlasting life?

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i was watching annual meeting.

  towards the end of jackson’s talk, he says: .

  “perfection doesn’t automatically means someone will get everlasting life.

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  waton

  Able gave from the "first fruits" but Cain only "some of" his vegies.

  V. There were no first fruit veggies, the ground was cursed. Abel was favoured, for being smart, offering stuff even the dogs, pigs would not eat. vegetarians all.
  
  
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  Adam & Eve: Perfect but not everlasting life?

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i was watching annual meeting.

  towards the end of jackson’s talk, he says: .

  “perfection doesn’t automatically means someone will get everlasting life.

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  waton

  The tree of life was in the middle of eden, at the crossroads, probably a staple in their diet., not another forbidden or hidden item. They were kept from continuing that routine (12 harvests a year) by the rotating swords.

  If satan is so smart as wt pictures him, he would have A&E go into the ToL inc. seed business.

  a story hard to stomach. even jesus was perfect and he died. should have let him live a millenium to prove perfection.
  
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  Are badness, disobedience, and rebellion part of the "perfect" human nature?

  by psyco in

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  2. beliefs

  when humankind will be perfect again after 1,000 years living in a paradise without being influenced by satan and demons, since "the number of these is as the sand of the sea" (revelation 20:8), a huge amount of "perfect" people, like adam and eve, will be bad, disobedient, and rebel being misled by satan once again.. does this mean that after living today surrounded by bad, disobedient, and rebel imperfect people, you will still live surrounded by bad, disobedient and rebel "perfect" people in a paradise?.

  does this mean that badness, disobedience, and rebellion are part of the "perfect" human nature considering the big amount of people involved ("as the sand of the sea")?.

  is it possible that we were originally created with such a strong desire and tendency to badness, disobedience, and rebellion as a result of a wise, loving, and perfect project?.

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  waton

  after 1000+ years of extended wt rule down to the ms level, meetings going over the old stories again, and again,

  it is perfectly normal to be driven into the 4 corners of earth. no, not a flat earth sheet, but a three cornered pyramid.

  It is a pyramid schemes, the product: "you will not die"
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  Ukraine - Nato - US crisis

  by mikeflood in

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  2. current

  don't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....

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  waton

  russia seems have issued some kind of an ultimatum about the status of the now freed nations in its periphery.

  it moved today to recognize 2 new republics in the Ukrainian territory adjacent to the annexed crimea.

  i see a replay of the games that were played when I was 8, and then it was too late. for millions.
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  Ukraine and Armageddon

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm going to take a wild stab in the dark here and guess that the watchtower is having a wonderful time over the whole ukraine situation.

  is the whole " end of times " thing being pushed again to bring dissidents back into line .

  they must be seeing as a gift from above .

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  waton

  dont forget that the conflicts smoldering right now all have a strong religious component, different sects of the orthodox, Islamic world. that has to stop first, all babylons, small and great have to be gone. before then,

  wt leaders have to vanish to their valhalla. to be combat - ready immortal warriors. only then, when you thought there finally could be peace, ---
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  Freaky, unsettling, unnerving comment from Losch in his AGM talk

  by FFGhost in

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  2. beliefs

  did anybody else catch it?.

  he said that people who come back in the earthly resurrection would be given a body "reasonably similar" to the one they had prior to death.. what the almighty hootch?.

  "similar"?.

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  waton

  since according to wt doctrine. I have payed for all my sins, inherited and DIU, I would expect to have that reflected in my coming back. Of course I know a few, that need not too much improvement to be close to the top notch rating even now. wow. but

  would still prefer the other, never yet observed " You will not die" lie option.

  Der Kellner aus Kärnten kennt das.
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  Simon, are you affected by this Canadian trucker convoy?

  by greenhornet in

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  i think you live in canada.

  this convoy is starting in the usa and soon to be in europe.

  just like to know how this is effecting your daily life and like to share with us if it is.

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  waton

  There were convoys in the Carter days, breaking the 50 miles an hour speed limit, diesel savers.

  I am all for brawn getting its voice, way. too bad there has to be noice destroying peaceful nights, days, and waiting more weeks for needed deliveries.

  where is the heat/cool pump I ordered a month ago?
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  Ukraine - Nato - US crisis

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  don't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....

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  waton

  rt is slowly heating up the subtle rhetoric

  yesterday it was that all regions east of the dnepr yarn to rejoin the russian regional dominance, today it is that the people of the donbass fear an imminent Ukrainian attack, invasion (perhaps directed at the crimea near, behind them)

  masters