Able gave from the "first fruits" but Cain only "some of" his vegies.
V. There were no first fruit veggies, the ground was cursed. Abel was favoured, for being smart, offering stuff even the dogs, pigs would not eat. vegetarians all.
Posts by waton
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17Adam & Eve: Perfect but not everlasting life?
by pixel inso i was watching annual meeting.
towards the end of jackson’s talk, he says: .
“perfection doesn’t automatically means someone will get everlasting life.
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waton
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Adam & Eve: Perfect but not everlasting life?
by pixel inso i was watching annual meeting.
towards the end of jackson’s talk, he says: .
“perfection doesn’t automatically means someone will get everlasting life.
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waton
The tree of life was in the middle of eden, at the crossroads, probably a staple in their diet., not another forbidden or hidden item. They were kept from continuing that routine (12 harvests a year) by the rotating swords.
If satan is so smart as wt pictures him, he would have A&E go into the ToL inc. seed business.
a story hard to stomach. even jesus was perfect and he died. should have let him live a millenium to prove perfection.
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Are badness, disobedience, and rebellion part of the "perfect" human nature?
by psyco inwhen humankind will be perfect again after 1,000 years living in a paradise without being influenced by satan and demons, since "the number of these is as the sand of the sea" (revelation 20:8), a huge amount of "perfect" people, like adam and eve, will be bad, disobedient, and rebel being misled by satan once again.. does this mean that after living today surrounded by bad, disobedient, and rebel imperfect people, you will still live surrounded by bad, disobedient and rebel "perfect" people in a paradise?.
does this mean that badness, disobedience, and rebellion are part of the "perfect" human nature considering the big amount of people involved ("as the sand of the sea")?.
is it possible that we were originally created with such a strong desire and tendency to badness, disobedience, and rebellion as a result of a wise, loving, and perfect project?.
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waton
after 1000+ years of extended wt rule down to the ms level, meetings going over the old stories again, and again,
it is perfectly normal to be driven into the 4 corners of earth. no, not a flat earth sheet, but a three cornered pyramid.
It is a pyramid schemes, the product: "you will not die"
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Ukraine - Nato - US crisis
by mikeflood indon't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....
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waton
russia seems have issued some kind of an ultimatum about the status of the now freed nations in its periphery.
it moved today to recognize 2 new republics in the Ukrainian territory adjacent to the annexed crimea.
i see a replay of the games that were played when I was 8, and then it was too late. for millions.
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Ukraine and Armageddon
by jhine ini'm going to take a wild stab in the dark here and guess that the watchtower is having a wonderful time over the whole ukraine situation.
is the whole " end of times " thing being pushed again to bring dissidents back into line .
they must be seeing as a gift from above .
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waton
dont forget that the conflicts smoldering right now all have a strong religious component, different sects of the orthodox, Islamic world. that has to stop first, all babylons, small and great have to be gone. before then,
wt leaders have to vanish to their valhalla. to be combat - ready immortal warriors. only then, when you thought there finally could be peace, ---
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Freaky, unsettling, unnerving comment from Losch in his AGM talk
by FFGhost indid anybody else catch it?.
he said that people who come back in the earthly resurrection would be given a body "reasonably similar" to the one they had prior to death.. what the almighty hootch?.
"similar"?.
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waton
since according to wt doctrine. I have payed for all my sins, inherited and DIU, I would expect to have that reflected in my coming back. Of course I know a few, that need not too much improvement to be close to the top notch rating even now. wow. but
would still prefer the other, never yet observed " You will not die" lie option.
Der Kellner aus Kärnten kennt das.
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Simon, are you affected by this Canadian trucker convoy?
by greenhornet ini think you live in canada.
this convoy is starting in the usa and soon to be in europe.
just like to know how this is effecting your daily life and like to share with us if it is.
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waton
There were convoys in the Carter days, breaking the 50 miles an hour speed limit, diesel savers.
I am all for brawn getting its voice, way. too bad there has to be noice destroying peaceful nights, days, and waiting more weeks for needed deliveries.
where is the heat/cool pump I ordered a month ago?
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Ukraine - Nato - US crisis
by mikeflood indon't understand....but this crisis in ukraine seems to be getting out of control....i mean, everybody knows how to start a war..... by the way, as always, people at the borg are having a field day.....
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waton
rt is slowly heating up the subtle rhetoric
yesterday it was that all regions east of the dnepr yarn to rejoin the russian regional dominance, today it is that the people of the donbass fear an imminent Ukrainian attack, invasion (perhaps directed at the crimea near, behind them)
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The "WE'RE ALL IMPERFECT" Theory.
by pistolpete ina recurring theme in this loyd deal is the we're all imperfect-----------excuse!.
the "we're all imperfect" phrase, is an over used watchtower membership cliche, embedded in the minds of jws and anyone that leaves.
in the real world, there is no such thing as "we are all imperfect".
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waton
never mind imperfection, even perfect people make huge mistakes.thing of jesus, he could have debunked the flat earth "theory", the Water above Everest myth, virus microbe cause of illness, mental illness vs "demon possestion" but failed to enlighten us, letting us wait for millennia of imperfect scientist to clear the air.
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"A thousand years as one day"
by Awakened07 inthe scripture saying: "...one day is with the lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
" (2. peter 3:8) is often used both by jehovah's witnesses and others, to show that a day can literally mean a thousand years in the eyes of god.
this is then used especially for the creation story, and for the fall of adam and eve.
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waton
In james is mentioned that with the creator there is no turning of the sundial.
If you think of time as a fixed road over which everyone travels into the future, In the bible stories, the father is depicted as either being stationary or moving slowly to see details, or fast to see long range developments. or create them.
time has to be eternal, existing to hold uncreatable, indestructible energy. the creator seems to be above all that, even not to have to create energy, but perhaps convert it into matter in the so called Big Bang.
interestingly, the scriptures do not speak of god as going back into the past, because it is empty of course, therefore there are "books, and scrolls", aka records that are carried forward through the present moments for future use.
timely fun fact: our presence in the moment, the present is short ( of zero duration) but precious, because it is a present.