I don’t see much of difference in the context of the return of Christ.
Fm: right, when the generation mentioned by Jesus passes on, after the big destruction, time will be up.
Posts by waton
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by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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waton
I see no mention in any of the four gospels where Pilate the Italian gentile
Actftu: I stand corrected, thank you. generations of all different people run concurrently, nevertheless.
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protecting the oldest generation.
by waton inthis tree is named after a general, because the us called in the army to protect these oldtimers; now wrapped in a fire proof blanket.
(it has already a 4 feet fireproof bark).
when will canada do the same, on it's west coast and brazil in the amazon?
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This tree is named after a general, because the US called in the army to protect these oldtimers; now wrapped in a fire proof blanket. (it has already a 4 feet fireproof bark)when will Canada do the same, on it's West Coast and Brazil in the Amazon? we want a long tree generation, live as long as trees,
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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waton
The generation meaning has to be a group of people and not a time period.
Actftu: Jesus was answering an Italian's, a gentil's question, it is not just one group, like Jewish people, or OS, or anointed jws. and
Every generation, regardless of composition, has a shelf life. time [ing] is common to all of them. .
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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waton
the “great crowd” as representing all those persons who are not of the heavenly “bride” class, or 144,000 sealed ones, but who stand approved at the time of the “great tribulation” and are preserved alive on earth.” —Insight on the Scriptures
Fisherman : as you know, verse 21 of that prophecy defines the greatest calamity ever to happen on this planet. verse 34 states then (in other words) that the generation in question passes away after everything is calm again. The whole generation, all of them, pass away.
That is not "millions living will never die". wt is wrong, the generation never was the GC of OS. and
that is not the anointed either, because they die before, not after the great tribulation and its culmination, Armageddon.
even "the historically bad system of people" in the 1995 generation definition dont fit the bill, because they die before the end too, not after all has happened.
Based on the latest understanding of how some parts of prophecy might not have a greater fulfillment, this could apply to 1914 generation fulfillment.
fisherman, are you defending wt then, with this proviso?
the dying, passing away of the generation does not apply? After all, the generation is defined by its beginning 1914, and it's end, death, disappearance, or rising of a new generation, is it not?
Jesus words in verse 21 puts clear restraints on that. they all die after surviving armageddon.
wt's second fulfilment has no connection to reality, except to prove how wrong they are.
enJoy.
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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waton
generation might only apply in 70CE and not in 1914–or maybe it does.
fm: wt applies the generation remark in a second fulfillment, the 1914 generation, our time. that is what we are discussing.
plugging in another another interpretation of length of generation or meaning of generation.
fm: I am not pointing out the wt error in length of the generation, the overlap reality will catch with them by 2075. I am questioning the identity of the 1914 generation, pointing out the error in making it precisely the "anointed'.
The fact is that Jesus is recorded to have said that the generation will pass away after all has occurred, including the greatest disaster in human history,
wt prophecy denies that, the anointed generation passes away before that event.
there is a big difference between before and after.
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This is what - just about every Border in the United States looks like today.
by pistolpete inbiden ordered the ffa to stop all cameras from taking pictures or recording this mess.. the doj is fighting to allow millions of immigrants into the country with covid.
all immigrants don't have to take the vaccine or be tested.. terrorists from countries that hate america are entering the country.. guns are disappearing from the local stores, everyone is buying them out.
there is no doubt that this administration wants to destroy america.
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for Canadians not to forget, now an election issue, that a constant trickle is coming north too at one point, Rotherham *** Roxham road, where illegals flooding north into the country.
**** Rotherham sex scandal of minor abuse, immigrants almost all.
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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waton
A generation according to Jesus was approx. 50 years give or take a few years in length that is borne out by other Bible verses regarding a generation
smiddy, even double that, because his listeners, or that generation, lasted into the 2nd century, like Jesus' contemporary John.
Where do I stand? both the bible and wt doctrine should be exposed for what it is. and their supporters prodded to defend, and thereby expose their flawed arguments. I have seen twice, in close contact, terrible things happen by and to people that believe in falsehoods. hitler and stalin followers. both hindered to see the other side. the truth.
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smiddy, it was in response to punkofnice's quotation: translate? it is a striking rhyme, learned it in the 1930s. it is even wt / biblically correct, making Jesus the co-creator.
"The Lord - God said:" let there be light", --but Jesus could not find the switch. (in the dark).
said with the guttural nichcht, like in the infamous russian "Nnnyet" in the UN.
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created heaven and earth. I couldn't get past that.
s3 : to be fair, the bible says "heavens" plural. If you exclude the 'spiritual' domain, to the bible writers, in their dark, unpolluted dry desert skies, thousands of stars , even a galaxy or two were visible to the naked eye. That is four layers of the " heavens above", 1) the moon orbiting the Earth, 2) planets, comets orbiting the sun, 3 ) the Sun and other stars orbiting in the Galaxies, and 4) faint galaxies, part of the cluster.
It is the Earth existing from the beginning, that is the bible error.the Electricity Board said He would have to wait
pon: If I am allowed to add an old german poem:
Der Herrgott sprach "Es werde licht", doch Jesus fand den Schalter nicht.
This tree is named after a general, because the US called in the army to protect these oldtimers; now wrapped in a fire proof blanket. (it has already a 4 feet fireproof bark)