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  8/2021 GB update: more doubling down

  by neat blue dog in

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  in the latest gb update, losch basically scolds any jws who are wary of masks and the new experimental vaccines, and says that they're being influenced by conspiracy theories and essentially taking a political side.

  yet every week i hear individual jws, encouraged by the organization, wishing that masks and vaccines were required by the government and that people would just stay home.

  so taking that extreme stance isn't political, because it falls in line with what the org wants, but the opposite is political.. now the stage is more than set for anyone who doesn't fall in line with these things to be viewed as "weak" or getting political, and it shows to be a lie their claim that these things are "personal decisions".. they supposedly are respecting the decisions of the "superior authorities" .

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  waton

  not all decision by governments are "political" , even they are made to win the next election.

  The wt governing body wants to appear governmental of course.
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  Personification does not prove personality

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  insight book page 1019 volume 2. personification does not prove personality.. this is seen in the explanation given regarding jesus using he for the holy spirit.

  that the holy spirit is said to do so many things like hearing, receiving speaking does not prove that holy spirit is a personality.

  on that same page proverbs 8:1-36 was cited.

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  waton

  I used the male breast always to illustrate to people that it would feel perfectly natural in the non-sex resurrection to have redundant organs, wise beyond the grave, female or just male.
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  Personification does not prove personality

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  insight book page 1019 volume 2. personification does not prove personality.. this is seen in the explanation given regarding jesus using he for the holy spirit.

  that the holy spirit is said to do so many things like hearing, receiving speaking does not prove that holy spirit is a personality.

  on that same page proverbs 8:1-36 was cited.

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  waton

  or maybe you're joking?

  DS :of course! soon turning 91 and cant resist novel to me thoughts, like adam having a bigger wound then we thought. gender fascinates me, going from French to german often the opposite Moon, Sun neutral for the child. non existent in french,

  I believe, like you state, that the female is prime, the base, contrary what scripture says.
  
  
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  Personification does not prove personality

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  insight book page 1019 volume 2. personification does not prove personality.. this is seen in the explanation given regarding jesus using he for the holy spirit.

  that the holy spirit is said to do so many things like hearing, receiving speaking does not prove that holy spirit is a personality.

  on that same page proverbs 8:1-36 was cited.

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  waton

  wisdom's gender varies form language to language. la sagesse, die weisheit, but sounds neutral in english.

  must be going back to Adam, who, like all today's young children (neutral gender) , had in the common rib area, despite being male, female organs ready to develop.

  May be with the rib, a lot of surface tissue was removed too.
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  Theocratic Warfare

  by Iamallcool in

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  most of us know what theocratic warfare means but maybe very few people reading this forum might never heard of theocratic warfare.

  can you give them some examples of theocratic warfare?

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  waton

  thought you meant, David, a man dear to god's heart collecting 200 foreskins for family, possible (messiah ancestry) purposes.
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  JWs are bigger and more successful than the Mormon church

  by joe134cd in

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  just saw the following you tube video.

  it’s 3 hours long, but thoroughly interesting.

  if you want to save yourself 3 hours, basically the active mormon church is about 3 million.

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  waton

  mormons baptize the dead, even non members. do they count them as active?
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  JWs are bigger and more successful than the Mormon church

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
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  just saw the following you tube video.

  it’s 3 hours long, but thoroughly interesting.

  if you want to save yourself 3 hours, basically the active mormon church is about 3 million.

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  waton

  if true, the numbers suggest the wt inc will never give up the relentless preaching, and 'buller brush' type training sessions aka "service meetings, midweek worship"

  LDS members have only 2 years of service misery, for wt workers it is unrelenting, eternal.

  factoid re workers:

  wt has it opposite to bees. In the colony, the drones, workers, are the males, the queen fertile.

  wt has a mostly female bumble bee "army" scouring the world for the harvest, the heads, 8, mostly infertile, or non-reproducing males.
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  Is the door to door preaching work not the primary focus anymore?

  by pistolpete in

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  2. bible

  a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.

  this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.

  co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .

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  They start very slowly making small implications of change-

  pp : and gaslighting the hapless "domestics" in the process. example in your quotation:“

  "The irresistible conclusion therefore is that Jesus referred to the new creation [the anointed] when he said: “This generation shall not pass until all these things be fulfilled.” This then would be a strong indication that some members of the new creation will be on the earth at the time of Armageddon.”" Watchtower 1927 Feb 15 p.62 bold added.

  pp: Jesus words really mean that armageddon will have passed, be over, when the wt anointed should die. “The tribulation will be a greater disaster then the Flood, mentioned in the context, , and it will have passed be history, so Armageddon is part of the tribulation! .so:

  the current wt doctrine, preached, via letter, phone or h2h, is a false prophecy, the generation will not die at the onset of the tribulation, but after.

  in other words, the second fulfillment idea is totally wrong. because of the above and

  can not be the wicked generation, they die at armageddon

  can not be The "great crowd of Other Sheep" because they will never "pass away".
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  Is the door to door preaching work not the primary focus anymore?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.

  this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.

  co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .

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  waton

  it is an army made up of largely women, disobeying the "Lord's command" mentioned in verse 37 of 1 Cro, 14. , the rest of that chapter

  .If the 'no time requirement for pioneers' is true, ( instead of the 100, 150 h/p/m of the past,) it is a setup for establishing a female hierarchie, leadership in the congregation. the battle is on.

  The service demonstration on zoom have been featuring the same 2 texts for what must be 6 month now.

  1)satan is the ruler of the world, 2) the deity can not be tempted by evil. how boring can you get?
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  What JWs don't know they believe

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  2. beliefs

  in a post this morning, i suggested that a way to wake up fellow congregants is to plainly comment or make talks on teachings and rules the jws don't really know too well.

  the idea is that you can say these things, other jws will be bothered by the comments, but will not be able to do anything about it as this is the official teaching or stand on this or that.

  the key here is that when troubling rules and teachings are thought in the watchtower, they generally use wording that makes them go down easy.

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  waton

  How does that wake up anyone? Nothing wrong with those teachings. R 350:

  as you lead a simpleton witness along in the reasoning: the sealed 144k come out of the 12 tribes, and the 12 tribes must be the "Israel of God " in the new covenant for forgiveness of sins, it will dawn on them, that

  all of them,like Israel should partake of the emblems to get the right to everlasting life. John 6, all (of israel) ate of the manna, not just the priests and Judeans, future kings.

  Jesus fed the bread to people not anointed, with an earthly hope. (Act 1:7)

  there is plenty wrong with those teachings, and exposing the emptiness of wt doctrines, ,one point, one step at a time, is a great method.