Posts by waton

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Why did Jehovah choose false prophet apostates as his chosen earthly organization (1919) ?

by Rocketman123 in

from a theological and biblical perspective, this has to be asked and critically examined.. the doctrines this organization and its self described fdsl (gb) chosen ones has preached and taught have now more than ever have shown to be false teachings.. the bible warns of false prophets and those who say things that god has not given them to say but the wts from its earliest beginning made proclamations such as jesus's return in 1874.. so if one were to faithfully adhere to what the bible says and more so jesus's instructions for preaching his gospel of a new kingdom to come, who really are jws loyal to, the wts.

and its top leading men or jesus and jehovah ??

?..

waton

Wt writers are on record to have formulated and proclaimed world wide starting in 1918: " the world has anded, Millions now living will never die" Proclaimers book in the 400 pages.

If the deity selected them on the basis of that record, wt is fully justified to claim, that it has full divine approval now.

When it comes to truth, doctrine, anything goes. overlapping, anointing of the end generation.

overlapping and split personalities, taken to heaven at the beginning of the Great Tribulation, but only "passing away" after it is all over.

false prophecies over the place, see superior authorities 1929 to 1960ies.

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Anyone have stories about this?

by Biahi in

just reading on reddit...witnesses coming over to someone’s home after a death in the family to ‘pick over’ their possessions or asking about if they left any money to the cult?

i remember, at my previous place of employment, a mexican immigrant at my workplace, had converted to jw from catholic, although i did try to talk him out of it.

this has to be over 25 years ago.

waton

hanger-ones like to harvest too. The wt reminded will executors some time ago, that if the testament shows the org as the beneficiary, the value should be turned over to wt. inc.

If such diversions did not happen, and persons profited personally, headquarters would not have published that reminder.

was there not a case near Ottawa, where an elder was involved in a scheme like that?

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An American Religion?

by no-zombie in

i have a question.. have every member of the governing body (past and present) been american citizens?.

while i understand that some may have been born outside of the us, ultimately to serve in the world hq long term, i imagine that they all had to become 'americans'?.

no zombie.

waton

America was a natural to have such entities develop. immigrants, energetic often the outsider, from religious splinter groups, from all nationalities, reflecting much the percentages of the US population make up, Russel, Rutherford, Knorr, Franz, and

ready to return the scheme to their countries of origin.

nothing new here, if the first Abrahamic faith was Jewish, the third"s late offspring: American. Vox populi vox dei.

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Why a 1914 Return Date is Impossible

by Sea Breeze in

revelation 20:2-3. and he [jesus] laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the devil, and satan, and bound him a thousand years,.

and cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.. we see that the millennial reign begins with satan being bound.

he will be bound for 1000 years.

waton

The wt elite gets righteousness, the ransom benefits instantly, the jw rank and file have to earn it through 1000 year servitude. get that dude? and only obedience slavery, even it defies logic is the only way tp get you evn through armageddon, into the earth inherited by the meek wt exclusively.

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Why a 1914 Return Date is Impossible

by Sea Breeze in

revelation 20:2-3. and he [jesus] laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the devil, and satan, and bound him a thousand years,.

and cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.. we see that the millennial reign begins with satan being bound.

he will be bound for 1000 years.

waton

The dual class "Christianity", one with the New Covenant and one without it, that the WT teaches was unknown to the apostles.

SB, yes, that is the big void in their memorial/communion talk. Wt writer's understanding of the 12 tribes of the Israel of God. all members of all the tribes were in the Law, / are in the new covenant.

new covenant for all, for forgiveness of sin. kingdom covenant later, if you are a male virgin and die by the axe.

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The GREATEST—EMERGENCY RESPONDER-----JEHOVAH GOD!

by pistolpete in

this is not mine, and i check and didn't see me posting it in the past, but it’s appropriate with what covid did to the door to door preaching work.. considering we are living in the last days, and everlasting life is at stake……….

and the only means of salvation ------is the preaching work……... why would jehovah allow door to door preaching to stop for a whole year-----maybe longer?????.

all jehovah’s witnesses never noticed how dumb the door to door preaching work actually is.. jehovah is the greatest emergency responder.

waton

Rm: and what an emergency!, some of his guardian angels had discovered the sex appeal of the "daughters of men"!. That , or they, could have been stopped early on. The response was great, but late. and

You can't really blame wt, for using that fear inspiring late overreaction. , the special emissianary of the GR, Jesus of Nazareth, endorsed, used the deluge story himself.

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The GREATEST—EMERGENCY RESPONDER-----JEHOVAH GOD!

by pistolpete in

this is not mine, and i check and didn't see me posting it in the past, but it’s appropriate with what covid did to the door to door preaching work.. considering we are living in the last days, and everlasting life is at stake……….

and the only means of salvation ------is the preaching work……... why would jehovah allow door to door preaching to stop for a whole year-----maybe longer?????.

all jehovah’s witnesses never noticed how dumb the door to door preaching work actually is.. jehovah is the greatest emergency responder.

waton

Woken from the JC. :

That is actually a good post. It shows that our reasoning has its limits. our perception, living in thin, 5 km deep gas envelope, skinny around around a globe with a 6000 km radius. Incomprehensible for us, that energy is undestroyable, is uncreated, existing within infinite time, --- really does not sink in. so, yes, rocks do not lift themselves, do not speak the good news.

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The GREATEST—EMERGENCY RESPONDER-----JEHOVAH GOD!

by pistolpete in

this is not mine, and i check and didn't see me posting it in the past, but it’s appropriate with what covid did to the door to door preaching work.. considering we are living in the last days, and everlasting life is at stake……….

and the only means of salvation ------is the preaching work……... why would jehovah allow door to door preaching to stop for a whole year-----maybe longer?????.

all jehovah’s witnesses never noticed how dumb the door to door preaching work actually is.. jehovah is the greatest emergency responder.

waton

like the question I heard once was that if God was all powerful, can he make a rock so heavy that even He can’t pick it up.

WfJc: believe it or not, That was around in the 1930ies, surely as an old query from even 100 years earlier, among the loaded questions that defy logic.

how about "What is one thing God cannot do, even with all her power, according to scripture ? --- lie, and err of course . that leaves wtBtS inc suspended in midair without support.

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The GREATEST—EMERGENCY RESPONDER-----JEHOVAH GOD!

by pistolpete in

this is not mine, and i check and didn't see me posting it in the past, but it’s appropriate with what covid did to the door to door preaching work.. considering we are living in the last days, and everlasting life is at stake……….

and the only means of salvation ------is the preaching work……... why would jehovah allow door to door preaching to stop for a whole year-----maybe longer?????.

all jehovah’s witnesses never noticed how dumb the door to door preaching work actually is.. jehovah is the greatest emergency responder.

waton

Imagine an Emergency Responder learns of an impending terrorist plot to detonate a bomb.

pp: thank you for pointing that out. It is the risk of a lengthy post to have every word count, and not everybody has such a long attention span or even time to read.

Fact is too, that the deity is actually responding not to a threat of his own making only. see Rev 11:18: " God will destroy those destroying the Earth" .many, not just wtBtS inc agree, the planet needs a clean up. humans are a ticking time bomb. but yeah,

making the fate of 8 billion humans depend on their reaction to wtBtS inc. is a stretch.

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The GREATEST—EMERGENCY RESPONDER-----JEHOVAH GOD!

by pistolpete in

this is not mine, and i check and didn't see me posting it in the past, but it’s appropriate with what covid did to the door to door preaching work.. considering we are living in the last days, and everlasting life is at stake……….

and the only means of salvation ------is the preaching work……... why would jehovah allow door to door preaching to stop for a whole year-----maybe longer?????.

all jehovah’s witnesses never noticed how dumb the door to door preaching work actually is.. jehovah is the greatest emergency responder.

waton

The fault in my analogy is, of course,

pp: the fault is that you failed to mention that the threat of the explosion is planned, the bomb planted by the all powerful deity himself, and the timer is claimed to go off at a given "day and hour", only known to its creator.

sounds like a protection racket, unless there is another hook, namely that that bomb is somehow the only way to deal with a characteristic of the music lovers, , even the band. .

In any case, think of the story of Jonah, who was fooled by the ultimatum-setting deity too.

The thread vanished, the ultimatum expired. the fuse fizzled. All that preaching not for the good of the preachers. but,

Nineveh does not exist any more, -- surely their genes though? Isis?