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  the gaping hole in this week's weak wt study.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for pimi pimo persons: give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.

  in the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.!

  all jws partook.

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  waton

  flesh died for us. It refers to life on earth as well as heaven.

  R: right, so all must partake. heavenly or earthly "class".

  what text would say otherwise?
  
  
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  53

  the gaping hole in this week's weak wt study.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for pimi pimo persons: give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.

  in the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.!

  all jws partook.

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  waton

  unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life -- Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day” John 6:48-54
  Are the GB members sentencing their brothers to death?

  V: the right quote. The ransom, new covenant partaking is a must for all, for the anointed, giving up life on earth to gain immortality might follow, by the sealing.

  The GB members do not have the power to sentence in the divine sense, but their false policy on this "blood" and bread issue deprives the average Joe and Josephine jw at least of the appearance of life's hope. hpe not.
  
  
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  53

  the gaping hole in this week's weak wt study.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for pimi pimo persons: give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.

  in the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.!

  all jws partook.

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  waton

  John 6 has a bearing on this

  NK: right, there is a difference too between the right to everlasting life and immortality.

  wt teaches that partaking gets you the right to everlasting life on earth. The anointed, by virtue of their partaking, acquire that right and, like Jesus, have to sacrifice that right to obtain immortality. so:

  How dare the wt leaders then not allowing step one, partaking, for the general membershyp? after all.

  the 144 000 come out of the 12 [spiritual] Tribes of Israel. and all of that Israel is in the [new] covenant.

  
  
  
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  53

  the gaping hole in this week's weak wt study.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for pimi pimo persons: give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.

  in the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.!

  all jws partook.

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  waton

  Watchtower truly doesn't have one single scripture from the Bible that justifies their position

  Ds. it goes even further, they even deny that headquarters came up with the idea in 1935 to have the majority of their member cease to partake. Wt attributes that to a spontaneous reaction, vox popoli!. so:

  F&DS of 19i9 in inaction. in reaction. into victim blaming. again.
  
  
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  the gaping hole in this week's weak wt study.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for pimi pimo persons: give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.

  in the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.!

  all jws partook.

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  waton

  No one today should partake.,

  well while it is true there is no record of the apostles doing it ( on one Passover night peter was not attending the memorial) Did not Paul say " whenever you eat and drink you proclaim--" so there was a repetition of the ceremony; the catholic mass, communion for example.

  The novelty in wt doctrine is that they teach that you can get life, without partaking. (after slaving for a 1000 years).

  No scripture is ever offers for that stance. only 1935 vox popoli, vox dei. anecdotes.
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  Animal suffering, Christianity’s biggest problem.

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  human life is infused with pain.. but animal life is “define by pain.. animals in the wild are subject to endless torment from all angles of their existence.

  wild dogs disembowel their prey, venomous snakes cause slow internal bleeding and paralysis.

  crocodiles drown large animals in their jaws.. and animals also suffer from rampant disease, dehydration, and starvation, and have to contend with forest fires and floods, harsh winters and blistering heat.

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  waton

  But then man chose to be separate from God

  pp. That idea assumes there was no animal / plant balancing act by predation happening before 3000 BC.

  How about the meat eating dinosaurs tyrannosaurus rex? the roque teen agers of the species?

  My only answer is,: animal pain might be overrated, unfelt. "Love" is for us to create.

  "The fall " does not explains it at all.
  
  
  
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  53

  the gaping hole in this week's weak wt study.

  by waton in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for pimi pimo persons: give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.

  in the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.!

  all jws partook.

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  waton

  for pimi pimo persons: Give us one text that says those aspiring to everlasting life should not partake of the bread and wine.

  In the article, the whole proposition of refusing the emblems is based on the personal experience of one brother in the 1930s.! before that,

  All jws partook. fine. as they should have, but where did the idea come from that those, now classified with an "earthly hope" should henceforth not partake?

  The whole exercise gives not one scriptural reason, nor one single text. why it is , that believers should not partake, It behooves wt to offer such justification: after all,

  Jesus passed the bread and wine to people with a firm earthly hope! In John 6 he said partaking is a condition to get everlasting life! not immortality!. so, wt believers:

  Just one text to say, anybody gets life without partaking. king or not. one text that justifies wholesale abstaining, rejection.

  P.S. Peter said that first century Christians awaited a " new Earth? is there any record that those had that hope abstained? surely, not all the billions of partakers will miss out on the paradise resurrection?
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  Did The Witnesses Mess Up Your Sex Life?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  most of the witnesses i knew never really talked about sex.

  whatever couples did was pretty much kept quiet.

  every once in a while a wife might complain to the elders or a friend that the husband is too demanding or even immoral because of the sex practices the husband wanted.

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  waton

  without going into details into what configurations the dozens of protrusions, orifices of the human body can be used in, simply pot,

  the wt org, by institutionalizing the biblical codes of scriptural morality allowed me to live according to the family ideals I was raised in, but I had found wanting in society in general.

  A - beta male like me was not messed up by the jws . au contraire ( to use the famously french franchise)
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  Does the Earth (as a planet) deserve to be colonised by humans?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do humans have the right to live on this planet?

  we have, in much less than a century, managed to fill the earth with so much plastic waste that tiny fragments of plastic have been found on the highest mountains and the deepest ocean depths.

  not satisfied with doing that, we stupidly continue to do it.

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  waton

  Another question is: do humans deserve to have a planet like "our's" as a gift?

  we actually live comfortably only in a 10 km thick layer wrapping around this globe. being slowly "ver-giftet" by us.
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  6000 yrs for mankind

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a question to the board.. if someone asks you the below question, how do you respond?

  please reflect on why you think the question was asked.

  (background... the spouse was talking to dubs about 6000 yrs and wanted to tell them that it was proved false).

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  waton

  I mean written language

  vanderhoven & steel, some humans have an unexplained inhibition about writing, Did it not take early Christians decades to start writing about the extraordinary story that happened in the beginning of the "first" century?