by minimus 23 Replies latest jw friends
Most of the Witnesses I knew never really talked about sex. Whatever couples did was pretty much kept quiet. Every once in a while a wife might complain to the elders or a friend that the husband is too demanding or even immoral because of the sex practices the husband wanted. I knew of many teens who I found out later were not that “chaste” but were known for being excellent examples.
Did the JW religion adversely affect your life in the bedroom or....wherever???
Sex is part of our nature whether we are jws, catholic, atheist, etc.
What "INDIVIDUALS" chose to label certain sexual rituals and positions is a culture or ideology "Thing"
I don't see how Sex can messed up someone life.
I can see how some might consider certain facets of sex as being wrong while other consider it good. But refraining or indulging in certain aspects of sex shouldn't lessen the wonderful ONE TIME GIFT of life.
without going into details into what configurations the dozens of protrusions, orifices of the human body can be used in, simply pot,
the wt org, by institutionalizing the biblical codes of scriptural morality allowed me to live according to the family ideals I was raised in, but I had found wanting in society in general.
A - beta male like me was not messed up by the jws . au contraire ( to use the famously french franchise)
Any religious or social group that gives rules to normal body functions alters the functional view of such functions.
However, "normal" is defined by what the majority practices.
all of us who lived under those influences are biased at some level until we identify the processes
Did the JW religion adversely affect your life in the bedroom or....wherever???
Oh HELL YES!
There was a saying when I was in my late teens/early twenties (not subscribed to by myself) that when it came to sex it was only permitted "On Thursday night, after 10:00 P.M., with the lights off, and using no hands...anywhere, no deep kissing, no oral, and ONLY in the missionary position."
The only good sex I ever had was when I quit following the repressed orders of the JW's and began enjoying what is a natural need of life outside the JW religion.
I don't have any complaints personally, but as a good observer of people, I would point out a simple fact:
The neural pathways that govern orgasm do not fully develop in either men or women until puberty.
In a repressive environment where adolescents are taught that it's a sin to touch themselves and that they should pray for forgiveness after performing simple acts of hygiene, normal development can be arrested or stunted.
It's not a problem for men nearly as much as it is a problem for women. Male physiology does not leave JW males much choice, but it's entirely possible for a JW female to enter into a sexual relationship (i.e. Marriage) having never experienced a single orgasm in her life and with only vague ideas of how to get there.
Worse, if she's waited much past the bloom of youth to get married, there is a chance she may never be able to get there or always have problems.
So yeah. I'd say the JW's have messed up a lot of people's adult lives.
When I left the JW's to go to University, I attended a JW party before I left, I was considered a JW drop out and was there on the periphery.
During the party, the topic of sex and being privately reproved came up. To my shock, ignorance and naivety.... someone asked how many had had sex before marriage and I was one of a couple of people who had not, I was off out the JW's and there I was a mid 20's virgin, amongst all these pioneer/MS/good example kids who had all been messing around.
I felt so naive and stupid to have been a 'good JW' all those years, a whole youth and meanwhile all these elders kids had been doing as they wished. Literally all of them.
The irony is that these are all elders and pioneers etc now, preaching judgment and partaking in disfellowshipping and punishing people for the many petty things on the JW naughty list.
Yes they did. It didn't stop me and my late wife from enjoying oral though. It was only after she died that I was really messed up about having sex with other women. I think it was psychological problems that became physical problems to the point that not even Viagra and Cialis helped much. Now I'm too old and can only remember what it was like and how fun it was.
I knew of many teens who I found out later were not that “chaste” but were known for being excellent examples
Yes, totally agree. So many stories I can recall after I joined WT in my early 20s and hanging out with the teenages. Although remaining chaste myself while single. Some of the sexually active young one's got reproved announcements made. Then there were others that openly talked about their teenage sex experiences and nothing was ever done about it. I can relate what happened to me with my first witness girlfriend, we had been close friends for a number of years, then we found ourselves spending almost all our spare time together, just hanging out, doing it all the correct way we had been instructed. Then a single brother moved into our congregation, and within a few days, another brother who was a friend mentioned to me that this new guy was keen on my girl. So 5 days after he told me this i thought I would go around to my friends place to get an update, and who should find in bed under the covers together, none other than this new guy with the girl I had been friends with for so long. A week later she tried to deny everything between them, and I know nothing else happened with them, it was just a quick sexual get together for them. But that was enough of a warning for me.
I do wonder if the witness teenages today are has sexually active as they were in the congregations I was associated with during the 1990s.
Yes indeed!
Sex was "bad"! And of course, oral sex was the baddest of bad. Played it pretty much by the rules as a JW teenager. Even later (20's) would never go "all the way" because there was some rule about "penetration" prior to the definition of pornea being anything and everything sexual. Even after getting married had a bit of a hangup about oral sex (usually after one of those meeting parts condemning it). Most of us younger married guys joked about NOT getting involved in the "practice" of oral sex with our wives -- because we no longer needed more "practice". In fact. we were damn good at it.
