Posts by waton

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Would you leave the Watchtower if you woke up at age 80 plus, or just stay in for the rest of your life.

by pistolpete in

so yesterday while i was doing some work for a customer, i noticed the wt mags on the sofa.

and i asked the elderly man if he was a jehovah witness?.

he said that he and his wife and all his children were raised in the religion, but only he and his wife attend the meetings or zoom.

waton

I am into my 90ies and experiencing that. It would by hypocrisy to preach the wt doctrines and of course financing them.

At least when we were in, we had reason to believe some of it, like impending nuclear exchanges to poison the planet, after billions of dead. Now i feel sorry for those out in the field, the phony phones, peddling what amounts to a badly warmed up 1914 overlapping spiritual meal.

Older people are happy, they are beyond the struggles of so-called "truth". life will take it's course. enjoy. That does nor mean I will not work to straighten out my family: example, yesterday's text. The [other] sheep:

They know now the alternate explanations, non-israelite Christians. the great crowd of ~~other sheep.~~ in the heavenly temple

You have to know the alternative explanation to defend "the truth" against contradictions, right?

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The unrighteousness of the Jehovah's Witnesses

by Rocketman123 in

a point to consider is that the bible states that if a prophet says things that god as not given them to say, they are to shun that individual or persons.. deuteronomy 18:22 ...... if a prophet speaks in the name of the lord, and the thing does not come about and does not come true, the lord has not spoken that word.

the prophet has spoken it presumptuously.

do not be afraid of him.. another scripture to note or consider would be 1 john 4:1 ......... dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from god, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.. so to observe if someone is saying things wrongly or what they have not been instructed to say in the preaching work, one has to play close attention to the instructions handed out by jesus christ himself.. one of the admonishments handed out to his followers is that they should not set a time upon god's own sacred time and that not even he knows of the time.. yet the wts and its top leading men have set numerous times on their own accord, taught and preached them, which were acts of disobedient apostasy.

waton

In many words there will be many transgressions. wt inc: bible blabberers.

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Exoplanets - Amazing!

by LoveUniHateExams in

i've just been watching a few youtube videos on exoplanets.. an exoplanet is a planet which orbits a star other than our sun.. and scientists have discovered dozens and dozens of different planets orbiting different stars.. this is pretty damn awesome ….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgnwpbhrcqs.

waton

It is a win win situation for science. either we are the unique planet with life, or it is a common thing. I am fascinated with the unique ratios in our planet system: all tens:

http://www.sciforums.com/threads/doing-the-numbers-on-no-1.160798/ and:

pressure of atmosphere 10 meters, surface gravity: ~ 10 m sc xsc 10 meter pendulam swings at 10 seconds.

see the planet 10x further out: Saturn .so:

Luhe, thanks for the above spectacular species, but sofar, we are still No 1, the first that was discovered to have life, by life.

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Why did Paul call Jesus, “the firstborn from the dead”?

by Doug Mason in

"jesus christ was resurrected on nisan 16, 33 c.e., the day when the jewish high priest offered up the firstfruits of the barley harvest.

this fits in accurately with jesus' being the "firstfruits" in the resurrection of the human dead.

(1 cor.

waton

Because, he was the first to be born again from SIN to immortality. Don't forget that the sins of the whole world (not just Adam as the WT tries to teach) were placed upon Him

SB that is new thoughts to me, although it contradicts in a way the text that says, he "died apart form/without sin". [personal sin] ?

If he really inherited all these sins, died a sinner, that undermines my favored request. proof for his standing, namely. to have him outlive his natural life term of 1001+ years before releasing him for sacrifice.

If you really accept such an inheritance, it shows on your accounts so to speak, you pay taxes on it,

If he really died a sinner. he truly was the second Adam. according to the bible stories, some people died twice, might die again, that too should account for some "sins" makes sense?

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Why did Paul call Jesus, “the firstborn from the dead”?

by Doug Mason in

"jesus christ was resurrected on nisan 16, 33 c.e., the day when the jewish high priest offered up the firstfruits of the barley harvest.

this fits in accurately with jesus' being the "firstfruits" in the resurrection of the human dead.

(1 cor.

waton

Once you accept the 'from dust to Adam to the rib and the talking snake' scenario, the groundwork is laid to keep on spinning the thread.

Do the scriptures not encourage us to outgrow tales fit for five year olds?

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Do You Support The Death Penalty ?

by minimus in

jw
friends

do you support the death penalty or do you think the worst punishment should be incarceration?.

waton

with unlimited foreknowledge, )as some are reputed to have), I would support execution before the deed is even done.

A murderer should die before he can even make another human join her in death.

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God is Love , & other victim blaming in today's wt "study"

by waton in

some thoughts for lurkers to free themselves from wt think: .

the "god of/is love" really applies tlc, tough loving care , to his beloved children.

letting them learn the really hard way.

waton

I found this interesting post

pp: interesting what one poster said: " jws preach salvation, but salvation from what? from the wrath of the loving god! " so, is it a protection racket?

FUJ: damage control.

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What do you think about NDE? Life after death?

by Mowgliandbalu in

please forgive if my english is a bit crooked :-) at least i understand quite well and i thank everyone here in the forum very much!

you were a big help for me within the last months.

i'm a born-in from germany, mid50, was 20 years elder, woke up a few years ago.

waton

But the WT does say that demonic activity happens in our time. Now isn't that odd? DJ

that fits in with the wt's 1914 doctrine, that the wicked spirits are now only here on earth, the focal point of their attention. which should fire a few neurons in distress.

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God is Love , & other victim blaming in today's wt "study"

by waton in

some thoughts for lurkers to free themselves from wt think: .

the "god of/is love" really applies tlc, tough loving care , to his beloved children.

letting them learn the really hard way.

waton

Some thoughts for lurkers to free themselves from wt think:

The "God of/is love" really applies TLC, tough loving care , to his beloved children. letting them learn the really hard way.

Instead of using some latex from the rubber tree, to muzzle the snout of that talking snake,

He let the lie "you will not die" *proceed and do it's ravages, blaming humans for his failure to be a normal protective, proactive father; Then he indebted the victims by the story of correcting his negligence in providing the "ransom" benefits, only administered through wt. inc's monopoly.

In true form, Wt blames victims to be resentful, and have "hateful" reactions to what happens to them in the org, the cong.

* the same lie taught by the wt "slave" since 1919, "millions now living will never die."

P.S. not saying that there are not some truly caring individual among jws. ---thank you and bless them.

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The jabberoonie

by punkofnice in

i had my 1st rona vaccination last saturday.

i had the one i jokingly call the asteroid xenomorph.. the whole thing was well organised.

i felt fine until the next day.

waton

I did not feel my last 3 flu shots, and became suspicious that they just faked it and pocketed the money, but they have it really down now to the Rev 21 " no more pain" level.

In this developing nation , the over 90 year olds , like me, will start getting their first shot later this week.