Posts by waton

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Why do some people who were trapped in the WT and wake up, still believe in the Bible God who allowed them to be deceived for years.

by pistolpete in

why do some people who were trapped in the wt and wake up after much frustration and anger that they were lied to, still believe in the bible god who allowed them and their families to be deceived and trapped for years.

i have an acquaintance who is a lot older than me and for the past 30 years he has been out of the watchtower religion and is sola scriptura.

sola scriptura is a theological doctrine that posits the christian scriptures as the sole infallible source of authority for christian faith and practice.

waton

Why do some people --- , still believe in the Bible God who allowed them and their families to be deceived and trapped for years.?

PP: excellent OP. One answer is, that the belief in a first cause is deeply ingrained in our view of the world.

In 1915 ***, Albert Einstein asked " Where is the mighty Jehovah? " he saw himself in a struggle with "Der Alte" to wrestle cosmic secrets from a possible creator.

(he did not unhinge his hip in the process bsw) only some long held scientific facts., approximations

having proven to yourself that wt, and by extension scripture gives a wrong picture of reality, does not mean that there is ultimately no "J", an unfathomable creative entity.

*** chapter #3 in the book "Einstein in Berlin"

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Year text question of/for jw leaders like David.

by waton in

in this week' wt study article, "--keep calm--", .

in today's wt study, par 1. king david, the quintessential jw leader, is quoted as having asked "how long will i have anscious concerns--?

david was shown to have caused 10 000 nds of deaths, by his illegitimate policies.

waton

The one thing, wt does not want you to be anxious about is the possibility that they are wrong, as always, powerless to make the deity act, and therefore put you unnecessarily in harm's way, as did David and Salomon.

A reptiles well lay many eggs, Salomon tried to emulate that by fertilizing many of his 1000 dedicated females.

A worthy temple builder. great wt example. incubating many golden eggs.

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Year text question of/for jw leaders like David.

by waton in

in this week' wt study article, "--keep calm--", .

in today's wt study, par 1. king david, the quintessential jw leader, is quoted as having asked "how long will i have anscious concerns--?

david was shown to have caused 10 000 nds of deaths, by his illegitimate policies.

waton

In this week' Wt study article, "--keep calm--",

In today's wt study, Par 1. king David, the quintessential jw leader, is quoted as having asked "How long will I have anscious concerns--?

David was shown to have caused 10 000 nds of deaths, by his illegitimate policies. guidance. (or his dalliances with other men's wives) , -- without the deity intervening, preventing that needless dying.

Do jw leaders of today have similar misgivings?

should jws be calm, knowing that the deity has allowed past leaders to cause such calamities?

I remember a slogan in the 1940s: J.G. : " Ruhe ist die erste Bürgerpflicht " (apologies for posting that on an english language site)

hopefully history will repeat itself, with fewer victims.

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Why do some people who were trapped in the WT and wake up, still believe in the Bible God who allowed them to be deceived for years.

by pistolpete in

why do some people who were trapped in the wt and wake up after much frustration and anger that they were lied to, still believe in the bible god who allowed them and their families to be deceived and trapped for years.

i have an acquaintance who is a lot older than me and for the past 30 years he has been out of the watchtower religion and is sola scriptura.

sola scriptura is a theological doctrine that posits the christian scriptures as the sole infallible source of authority for christian faith and practice.

waton

The bible, and by extension believers have a picture of the creator that is a caricature.

and people love the comics.

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Since Myself and our sons left the JW cult, My wife has been M.I.A has a mom and wife

by goingthruthemotions in

i would like to get some feed back from pomo's who's spouse is still pimi.

since myself and our son's left the jw cult.

my wife has been m.i.a has a mom and a wife.

waton

remember too, that if your wife is not acting her best, perhaps it is hard for her to understand the truth about the truth, It is stressful for her, but:

she is not following watchtower or bible instructions. She is supposed to be extra nice to you. because you will be "sanctified" by her good conduct.

so : help her doing that. The quest for the status quo.

not endorsing just saying.

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Handwritten letter's from JW children "sick"

by Fadeaway1962 in

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/edinburgh-residents-targeted-with-handwritten-letters-from-child-members-of-jehovahs-witnesses-brand-the-move-sick-3153697?amp .

how the residents feel about receiving a letter from a jw children..

waton

Ds: to be fair, in the zoom "service" meetings letter writing sessions with kids, -- cards to new widows, elderly ones might be included, but

counting time anyway, because the kid writing is not baptised.

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Handwritten letter's from JW children "sick"

by Fadeaway1962 in

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/edinburgh-residents-targeted-with-handwritten-letters-from-child-members-of-jehovahs-witnesses-brand-the-move-sick-3153697?amp .

how the residents feel about receiving a letter from a jw children..

waton

Such letter writing might actually teach the harassed child to lie. since the sentiment are not it's own, but wording dictated by the person on zoom that is the influencer, The young victim learns in this way, how detached one's expression can be from the what one really thinks, wants to do; It also, by being the victim, teaches this process to use later on others.

Cruelty administered on the lower ranks by leading Nazi bullies (and others too) in training, could have easily, given the opportunity, lead to cruelty done by us. .

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Should I continue to help an "unbelieving" husband?

by RiverPeace in

jw
friends

i know there are a lot of 'wise heads' out there on this forum - so i would appreciate your suggestions.. several years ago, i studied with a guy, whose wife is a jw.

(he had studied with several elders before i came along).

the study went reasonably well.

waton

he does not need more munitions if he is not in a fight. His wife might have ways to intercept your messages. She just might want to keep her husband . He might just want peace,

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Handwritten letter's from JW children "sick"

by Fadeaway1962 in

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/edinburgh-residents-targeted-with-handwritten-letters-from-child-members-of-jehovahs-witnesses-brand-the-move-sick-3153697?amp .

how the residents feel about receiving a letter from a jw children..

waton

one letter writing session " service arrangement" by zoom is hardly ruining a childhood, but the idea that your good name is used to enhance, embellish the current wt doctrines, hidden even from adults, is offensive.

A bad habit that could last a lifetime, even overlap into the next group.

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Handwritten letter's from JW children "sick"

by Fadeaway1962 in

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/edinburgh-residents-targeted-with-handwritten-letters-from-child-members-of-jehovahs-witnesses-brand-the-move-sick-3153697?amp .

how the residents feel about receiving a letter from a jw children..

waton

It is done without understanding by the child, without consent. often without authorisation by one of the parents. it is child exploitation, child labour. hopefully it will create a wider outrage.

I is one thing to have a nice stroll in the neighbourhood of "not at homes" , trip to "unassigned territory" as a family, it is another to exploit indoctrinate innocents like that.