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  Since Myself and our sons left the JW cult, My wife has been M.I.A has a mom and wife

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  i would like to get some feed back from pomo's who's spouse is still pimi.

  since myself and our son's left the jw cult.

  my wife has been m.i.a has a mom and a wife.

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  waton

  hit her -- the scams...miracle wheat, Beth Sarim, the UN and Mexico Malawi scandals?

  Ds: I see it differently judging by my situation: we have to help people, that are in mental anguish, because they lost the support of their closest friend, family to sustain their unsustainable belief in the wt lie.

  My little daughter's rhime: "If they say, you will not die, you know it is a lie". instead of creating more insecurity by pointing out impossibilities, (which is ok here), try to subtly build the person up.

  There is a far greater reward than wt offers. the Universe is far grandioser than the bible says.

  The possible creator has done far greater things, than wt promises. with a family going forward, she is his fellow worker.

  
  
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  Memorial this year?

  by carla in

  1. watchtower
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  how are they handling the memorial this year?

  zoom or open kh's?

  how do they reject the wine & bread in their own home?

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  waton

  There was a stunning full moon on the eastern horizon last night, passover, memorial must be a month from now.

  The marker of the spring equinox.
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  Genesis 1:16 and apologists- vegetation before the Sun?

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  gen 1: 11 says: .

  11 then god said, “let the earth sprout [j]vegetation, [k]plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit according to [l]their kind [m]with seed in them”; and it was so.

  12 the earth produced [n]vegetation, [o]plants yielding seed according to [p]their kind, and trees bearing fruit [q]with seed in them, according to [r]their kind; and god saw that it was good.

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  waton

  “in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth “ .

  BB: sounds great, but it is wrong, if you put a timeframe on "beginning," or Big Bang brand. ,

  The sun is a 3rd generation*** star, 10 billion years removed from the beginning of the first. and

  yes, right, the universe did not make itself, from eternal energy.

  *** may be the overlapping generation idea started with Genesis 1 " ha ha.
  
  
  
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  Genesis 1:16 and apologists- vegetation before the Sun?

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  gen 1: 11 says: .

  11 then god said, “let the earth sprout [j]vegetation, [k]plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit according to [l]their kind [m]with seed in them”; and it was so.

  12 the earth produced [n]vegetation, [o]plants yielding seed according to [p]their kind, and trees bearing fruit [q]with seed in them, according to [r]their kind; and god saw that it was good.

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  waton

  vegetation before the sun? absolutely not, the central star is 500 million years older than the planets. but

  life without sunlight? absolutely. fungi, deep ocean vent inhabitants. life seems to be able to harness any raw energy gradient and use it for its proliferation.
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  A Generation Change Again???

  by BereanThinker7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard a few whispers that once again they are going to be changing the generation teaching.

  does anybody have on info on this?.

  i would love to be able to hit my family with a. .

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  waton

  wt writers should have stuck with contemporaries, and not narrowed the generation by anointing it.

  overlapping cognizant contemporaries, 14 year olds, becoming centenarians, would give them slack to 2086.

  Anointed generation, overlapping or not, is absolutely wrong, by definition.

  Tose that did not get shaken by the overlapping slap in the face, might not get shaken out by any new playing with numbers either.
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  A Generation Change Again???

  by BereanThinker7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard a few whispers that once again they are going to be changing the generation teaching.

  does anybody have on info on this?.

  i would love to be able to hit my family with a. .

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  waton

  ever-tighter ideological corners)

  V: right! first it was the anointing of the generation then the grouping overlap.

  Frankly Jesus' words even written 30 years later, fit only the 1st century..

  trying to apply it to Luther's time or Russell' s, is just as bad as to 2075.
  
  
  
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  “Do not gaze about!”

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so many changes in the 2013 nwt seem needless and spoil familiar phrases.

  take isaiah 41:10 in the nwt classic rendering:.

  do not be afraid, for i am with you.

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  waton

  easier to translate

  sbf: perhaps sadly true, at the price of pithy understandings. remember in bethel, agony over the word "awe" to be rendered into a simpler language with the same deep meaning.
  
  
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  Memorial this year?

  by carla in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how are they handling the memorial this year?

  zoom or open kh's?

  how do they reject the wine & bread in their own home?

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  waton

  The passover was actually a family affair. Jesus, not being married, did it with his friends.

  The zomm wt mode of doing it comes actually closer to that ideal; also, Jesus passed the emblems to people with an earthly hope,

  Ray Franz and friends did an apart celebration too, and thousands do it every year privately after "the meeting".

  This new private setting, with camera off is the golden opportunity to act out your great beliefs in privacy.

  A better cook might actually do the baking for you. openly.
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  A Generation Change Again???

  by BereanThinker7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard a few whispers that once again they are going to be changing the generation teaching.

  does anybody have on info on this?.

  i would love to be able to hit my family with a. .

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  waton

  With all due respect, "one generation consists of 2 overlapping groups and thus can extend for 150 or more years"

  FFG: In the bible story, that wt writers use to underpin this doctrine, Joseph in his generation died young, only 110 years old. Pharaoh, his fathers closer to 150. (they all were closer to wt perfection, to the talking snake timeline).

  Even today, if you live in southern France, Sardinia, Okinawa, you can easily have 110 year old *** contemporaries like Joseph, and of course their timeline can span 200+ years.

  The wt generation problem is not the overlap of old contemporaries. it is the anointing.
  

  Jesus' contemporaries, as he predicted, had to die after the end of jerusalem's great tribulation. The wt generation, has to die before the great tribulation, because they are partaking in, they are causing it from heavens above.

  The current wt generation is not the last.

  *** old age caused by evolutionary perfecting, Healthy old men having children with younger ladies, passing on proven healthy genes.
  
  
  
  
  
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  Watchtower Changes Position On Sodomites

  by Sea Breeze in

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  why all the flipflops?.

  1886 sodomites resurrected = yes!“thus our lord teaches that the sodomites did not have a full opportunity; and he guarantees them such opportunity… it implies their awakening, their coming from the tomb.”—the divine plan of the ages, 1886, pp.

  110-111 (view pdf of these pages).

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  waton

  Recently Steven Lett said that homosexuals would return in the res. With the same desires

  BB, that shows that the GB, from heaven, thinks they can continue by guilt, control the hapless meek on earth.Imagine a perfect, strapping, joung 900 year old with raging hormones, but not legally able to procreate. ?