Posts by waton

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Hollow earth

by Jrjw in

i thought the flat earth conspiracy theory was strange but ive just read an article about a new conspiracy theory that the earth is hollow and that its a paradise there and 8 foot tall intellectually advanced aliens live there who send space ships out every so often to check on mankind.

apparently lost viking colonies and nazis that fled there after world war 2 are living there immortally 🤣🤣 .

this world just gets better and better 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

waton

just to play along what a hollow earth would feel like to live in. Assuming that the centre is hollow, a round cavity, there would be no gravity there.

You could push yourself off the inner wall under England and float to Australia, envied by the kangaroos, but take a cushion along, the arrival would be as strong as your departure.

we know now that zero gravity has grave consequences on our bodies, including the brain. living inside a hollow earth would simulate that.

it was also skew our seismic findings, change the mass of the Earth, it's relationship to the moon, shift the barycenters.

Present a perspective with wrong priorities, like wt's performance record. .

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Resurrection to Heaven

by Lost in the fog in

ct russell said the dead would be resurrected to heaven from 1874-1881.. then the judge decided that it was not 1874/5 for the return of christ but 1914, so moving the heavenly resurrection forward to be from 1914-1918.. in truth nobody knows when it happens or happened.

just because the watchtower leadership says something in the printed word doesn't mean that it is true.

zion's watchtower 1881, january.

waton

read it please. 1975-2075. a composite family story. posted here

I tried to read it but it was written very strangely. Like it sort of made sense and sort of didn't. The grammar was peculiar and I didn't really understand what was going on. Fred Franztone.

thank you, Fred, for even trying and putting up with the staccato syntax of one of the observing immigrant patriarchs in the story.

Point was, that within a day's driving distance of Brooklyn Bethel lived a number of young overlappers, that had contact with Fred Franz, Friend and other anointed there. These were real families, real characters. Their tenure on Earth will not expire until the 2075 era.

Wt's claim to uniqueness, authority is based on these timelines, appointment assertions. They have already collapsed.

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Resurrection to Heaven

by Lost in the fog in

ct russell said the dead would be resurrected to heaven from 1874-1881.. then the judge decided that it was not 1874/5 for the return of christ but 1914, so moving the heavenly resurrection forward to be from 1914-1918.. in truth nobody knows when it happens or happened.

just because the watchtower leadership says something in the printed word doesn't mean that it is true.

zion's watchtower 1881, january.

waton

58 years from now? What's this about? Fred Franztone

It is about allowing

2 years from the start of the GT to Armageddon, judgement, paradise. about

A brother following the timeline of F.Franz, serving in Bethel with him, surviving him by ~80 years, the ~ same period that Franz survived 1014 (the supposed end then).

as proverbs says: "The end is better than the beginning". read the 1975-2075 story please. real family histories.

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Resurrection to Heaven

by Lost in the fog in

ct russell said the dead would be resurrected to heaven from 1874-1881.. then the judge decided that it was not 1874/5 for the return of christ but 1914, so moving the heavenly resurrection forward to be from 1914-1918.. in truth nobody knows when it happens or happened.

just because the watchtower leadership says something in the printed word doesn't mean that it is true.

zion's watchtower 1881, january.

waton

Remember, within a few years of 1975 most JWs professed not to remember that the WT said anything of consequence about that date. Ding:

and read about the diehards in the sorry story 1975 to 2075, who considered

1) 1975 a faith strengthening experience, a test of their zeal and endurance, and a time of sifting survived,

2) an affirmation that wt was on the right track, because Armageddon, paradise were now surely so much closer as they were in 69 when it all began.

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Resurrection to Heaven

by Lost in the fog in

ct russell said the dead would be resurrected to heaven from 1874-1881.. then the judge decided that it was not 1874/5 for the return of christ but 1914, so moving the heavenly resurrection forward to be from 1914-1918.. in truth nobody knows when it happens or happened.

just because the watchtower leadership says something in the printed word doesn't mean that it is true.

zion's watchtower 1881, january.

waton

Edit: so this lot of GB have given themselves some breathing room, and when the max date is reached they will all be dead,

FF: not only will they be dead, if that happens at the beginning of the Great Tribulation, their remains will be nowhere to be found, disposed by angels, like the first anointed one's was.

to recapitulate, a second F. Franz but having better , modern care, would have been 21 in 1992. would live past 2070, > 80 years after 1992. give 2 years for the GT, Armageddon, that in 2075 to the PPP, the millenium.

It is not later than you think, but it will be longer than they think.

read 1975- 2075 please, a family story. posted here.

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Resurrection to Heaven

by Lost in the fog in

ct russell said the dead would be resurrected to heaven from 1874-1881.. then the judge decided that it was not 1874/5 for the return of christ but 1914, so moving the heavenly resurrection forward to be from 1914-1918.. in truth nobody knows when it happens or happened.

just because the watchtower leadership says something in the printed word doesn't mean that it is true.

zion's watchtower 1881, january.

waton

Diagenesis sister, please read the experience in the 1975 to 2075 topic.

A 15+ year baptised, conceived unexpectedly and born in ~1973 was with Franz in Bethel, is now in his mid 40s and will live like Franz and his forbearers into the early hundreds, ~ 58 years from now, dying before the end as he must, in ~ 2075.

read it please. 1975-2075. a composite family story. posted here

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Resurrection to Heaven

by Lost in the fog in

ct russell said the dead would be resurrected to heaven from 1874-1881.. then the judge decided that it was not 1874/5 for the return of christ but 1914, so moving the heavenly resurrection forward to be from 1914-1918.. in truth nobody knows when it happens or happened.

just because the watchtower leadership says something in the printed word doesn't mean that it is true.

zion's watchtower 1881, january.

waton

CTR was buried in a big funeral with signs "gone home". that will not be the same according to wt with the last of the anointed generation, as late as 58 years from now, They will be miraculously disposed of by angels, like Jesus. All this at the beginning of the Great Tribulation, ahead of Armageddon the judgement, eternal life for the sheep.

as explained by D.S.and the wt charts.

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Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

waton

Mr Roboto is not a flat earther, but he insinuates he can prove their claims, but never does. so, in the meantime he is acting like a manipulative husband that is convincing his wife that she is insane, now,

who would want that to happen among the people that have seen through the wt works? proven wt wrong?

who would want us to feel that our absolutely right arguments, proofs are futile?

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Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

waton

if any of you are in the Bay Area--prove kairos

you canthere look across ~ 60 miles of water, similar toward Chicago on Lake Michigan, the refraction alone stretch the image. the water has a clear curvature over that 60 miles. lots of good math on that.

The only thing you will prove that you are not doing your math.

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Resurrection to Heaven

by Lost in the fog in

ct russell said the dead would be resurrected to heaven from 1874-1881.. then the judge decided that it was not 1874/5 for the return of christ but 1914, so moving the heavenly resurrection forward to be from 1914-1918.. in truth nobody knows when it happens or happened.

just because the watchtower leadership says something in the printed word doesn't mean that it is true.

zion's watchtower 1881, january.

waton

according to wt that first resurrection started in 1918, and will be over not later than 2075. but before all these things occur.

problem a) The anointed are not supposed to die, and be resurrected before the end, even Armageddon, and the sheep and goats are judged.

problem b) 2 Tim 2:18, those that say the resurrection has already occurred have deviated from the truth.