Posts by waton

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Pull the Plug Already...

by megaboy in

after reading and seeing so many detailings of the dealings with people in this religion, i have to wonder how to get people who are just extremely asleep.

reasoning doesn't seem like it works, there needs to be some kind of plug pull event, like the leaders doing something so uterly stupid that it causes the immediate downfall of the entire religion.

but because i am naturally curious i want to know from people who have more experience with jw structure why they seem to have a resistance to an event like this?

Think of a vessel where the plug has already been pulled, You could keep all the liquid from going down the drain! how?, vigorous one directional churning, never ending going around, water pinned against the vessel's, the org's walls . Wt is master at that keeping the jws busy. . You can have leaks, but the plug is already pulled, happened with the talking snake.

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Jesus and Satan’s Hilly hike

by EverApostate in

i got an inspiration to create this topic as a subset of another topic.

satan in heaven.. as per the bible,the devil took jesus to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.

below is a reference from another critic.

waton

Ever apostate, forgive us for hijacking your thread." Climb every mountain--" SOM.

Island man: "Forgive my pedantry, but actually, the Earth is falling toward the sun...

not really, if it falls "toward", the radius of the orbit would be shrinking, but as it is, the Earth has one of the most stable circular orbits, bettered only by Jupiter.

The angular momentum of orbiting matter was derived from its fall inside the cloud that formed the solar system, and that heights of fall can be thought of as potential energy that was originally in the big bang expansion.

Only lack of energy gives you that sinking feeling.

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Watchtower Philosophy Debates

by Wild_Thing in

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friends

i was wondering how many of you still enjoy (or maybe you just feel the need) to discuss and debate jw doctrine and scripture.

i find myself scrolling right past those topics i see online.

i could care less.

waton

Doctrines are more of an exact science, they can be proven wrong just by looking at the parameters, definition. example:

anointed generation versus general population (wicked generation).

Jesus defined the length: the generation will not pass away until all these things, including the destruction have occurred.

wt's anointed generation has to pass away to heaven before the destruction even gets seriously started, because the resurrected, immortal anointed are among the warrior executioners. so:

wt false! no ifs or buts. already build into their predictions.

hard facts beat sociology, opinions every time. imh opinion.

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Jesus and Satan’s Hilly hike

by EverApostate in

i got an inspiration to create this topic as a subset of another topic.

satan in heaven.. as per the bible,the devil took jesus to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.

below is a reference from another critic.

waton

A hitch- hikers guide to the galaxy! island Man, pedantic is right. When we speak of a fall, we generally mean toward the center of gravity of the mass. not a perpetual fall forward that always misses the target.

The bible description, speaks of hanging, a supporting force upward, like from a "sky hook" away from the sun's gravity well (that the bible writers knew nothing about).

Gravity can be construed to act like a connection. There is work underway to push/pull an asteroid out of the way without ever touching it, by having a "tug space craft " ease it along by it's gravitational influence alone.

It is the energy of (dynamic) motion that balance the pull of gravity or the other attracting forces. That is where one of the few scientifically plausible bible texts come in: Isaiah 40:26.

Without the excess of [dynamic] energy, matter would never have been able to climb out of the deep well of the big bangand it's aftermath , or maintain its distance in orbits, in atoms, star system, galaxies superclusters the universe.

orbital velocity energy is pulling up not pushing. the quasi force is centri- fugal. pointing to flee from the center.

long live energy, where would we be without it.?

PS. thank you for bringing this up. It would open the way for wt to claim that the "hanging on nothing" words support the heliocentric world view, long before Galileo, Copernicus, Kepler. (the sun is still hanging in the day's sky, , on nothing too! ha ha)

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Jesus and Satan’s Hilly hike

by EverApostate in

i got an inspiration to create this topic as a subset of another topic.

satan in heaven.. as per the bible,the devil took jesus to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.

below is a reference from another critic.

waton

thank you, E A. the wrong part of the scriptures, and errant wt doctrine needs to be exposed at every opportunity, and there is one effective tool: humour. Not all of the bible concept are bad though, helpful perhaps, where they support morals, family values. case in point: I doubt that my super wife would have married and stuck with me, a beta male.

Jesus really knew how to go about hiking , and rest. he stayed, without his disciples as chaperones , in the "lady's at the well" Samaritan city for possibly 2 nights.

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Jesus and Satan’s Hilly hike

by EverApostate in

i got an inspiration to create this topic as a subset of another topic.

satan in heaven.. as per the bible,the devil took jesus to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.

below is a reference from another critic.

waton

an then there was that other hike up to one of the temple towers.

"Jesus' " anti gravity capacities were still untested (he had not walked on water yet, without sinking) so he wisely declined . You can not die in public in an accident or stunt, if you are supposed to die in a slaughter to undo the "talking snake" damage.

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Jesus and Satan’s Hilly hike

by EverApostate in

i got an inspiration to create this topic as a subset of another topic.

satan in heaven.. as per the bible,the devil took jesus to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.

below is a reference from another critic.

waton

--figuratively*. sir82

Yeah, like when you take the "nothing" that the Earth hangs on figuratively.

There is no such thing as "nothing". The Earth is supported against the gravity of the Sun, and not falling into it, by energy, the dynamics of orbital velocity which results in the right centrifugal outward force. the bible s a farce. humorous fun.

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Jesus and Satan’s Hilly hike

by EverApostate in

i got an inspiration to create this topic as a subset of another topic.

satan in heaven.. as per the bible,the devil took jesus to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.

below is a reference from another critic.

waton

Even after the 1000 year Reich, the nations will be gathered into the 4 corners of the Earth, which, from a flat disk Earth in Jesus" day, has been stretched into a square, or if you are not a Flat Earther, into a triangular base pyramid. Not much room at the top though.

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