konceptual99: I was not referring to the dethroning of the Apostles, but the pre-Armageddon rapture of the partakers.
Posts by waton
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74The Watchtower's Real Crisis
by JeffT inwhen discussing the watchtowers financial problems, i've generally been of the opinion that they probably are not in a real financial crisis.
i've come to believe that money may be something of an issue, but its wrapped up in a much larger problem.
this came to me this morning when reading about the annual meeting.. i think the society's leadership is just plain out of ideas.
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The Watchtower's Real Crisis
by JeffT inwhen discussing the watchtowers financial problems, i've generally been of the opinion that they probably are not in a real financial crisis.
i've come to believe that money may be something of an issue, but its wrapped up in a much larger problem.
this came to me this morning when reading about the annual meeting.. i think the society's leadership is just plain out of ideas.
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waton
The only major doctrinal point addressed in recent history has been the overlapping generation and that has been a classic exercise in trying to sell the impossible.
They have offered nothing in the meat of the scriptures
k99: Right, and by making the generation anointed, directly contradicted "Jesus" words of the generation "not passing until all occurs"..
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In memory of a lost doctrine - the vindication of Jehovah's name
by slimboyfat ini start this thread in response to a comment by a jw apologist called simonsays on another thread.
he claimed to have read all three volumes of vindication by rutherford (my sympathy if true).
he further implied that it didn't matter that old jw literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:.
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waton
For vindicating a name, you would have to attach a meaning to it, and with "Jrhovah" becoming or "causing to become" anything thats suits the purpose or time, how is this done? a lttle bit like the four sided faces of the creatures on the chariot that face whatever direction it is headed at the time.
Vindication demands a stated goal achieved, sanctification just a general cleaning. or?
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In memory of a lost doctrine - the vindication of Jehovah's name
by slimboyfat ini start this thread in response to a comment by a jw apologist called simonsays on another thread.
he claimed to have read all three volumes of vindication by rutherford (my sympathy if true).
he further implied that it didn't matter that old jw literature said wrong and stupid things, saying:.
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waton
Ar the AGM: it can be both sanctified and vindicated.
Russell and Klein, both are fine.
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Everlasting life on a stick
by truthseeker ini think the watchtower is the only organization that can promise a product (everlasting life) and never deliver it.. what fools we've been to believe this nonsense..
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waton
everlasting life- with never dying at all , that is wt's schtick. for millions, since ~1918.
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2017 Annual Meeting
by Jules Saturn inthis just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.
1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.
6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.
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waton
the hypocrisy of posting on a site frequented by apostates. I actually agree with you on that point.." from M.
I do not see any hypocrisy in a jw posting here, even if he knows he risks consequences. Wt ideas are welcome here to be picked apart, after all wt claims to be the true religion because of its supposed [superior] ideas.
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2017 Annual Meeting
by Jules Saturn inthis just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.
1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.
6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.
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waton
Sorry if I have not made myself clear Morpheus but I am all in with wt. Whether or not being on this site suggests otherwise is debaitable. FS:
You are not the decidetly all in JW, pioneering when you can, contributing your surplus money.
Wt doctrines are debatable, a rich source of easy pickings. You do not have to quit here to be a JW or quit spending time at the hall to enjoy on this forum.
even the bible has 2 or three worthy verses.
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2017 Annual Meeting
by Jules Saturn inthis just in from the 2017 annual meeting:.
1. watchtowers and awakes won't be released regularly, at least three watchtower and awakes per year.
6 magazines a year.. 2. a new book is being released: remain in god's love, more of an update like how they did for the what does the bible really teach book.
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waton
the same old rag being displayed for weeks upon end. from jookbeard
In the past, having a new full size magazine (even larger in French) was a boon to go back on your interested ones with interesting stuff every week. now what? its over.
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The great tribulation is now coming VERY soon!
by The Searcher inwatchtower october 2017, par 11, page 28 - "very soon the political powers of satan’s world will form a coalition that is bent on the destruction of god’s people.
's] have anything to fear?
not at all!........at that critical moment during the great tribulation, the angelic soldiers of jehovah of armies will come together to protect god’s people..."[j.w.
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waton
The great tribulation and its climatic end aka Armageddon is supposed to be survived by "The Generation" Jesus spoke to and about. Now,
Wt has changed that, the wt generation of partakers will have passed away way before that* , watch Splane to prove it to yourself. He is bettering Jesus, battering his sayings.
* The immortal 144k have to be resurrected, trained and battle ready to make the tribulation great.
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Watchtower Study Today from August 2017 issue " Wait Patiently"
by BluesBrother intheme scripture , james 5 v 8 abbreviated to " you too, exercise patience".
(i guess we know what to expect now) .
" how long?
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waton
If Armageddon comes 1000 years from now, Jehovah would have had to wait, from his perspective, a mere 7 days to see his original purpose for the earth and mankind fulfilled. from Island Man.
yes, on Par 7. : but even then, Wt ( "god's" mouth piece) is in such a hurry so as to put the final rebellion, Satan's resurrection and destruction, Sovereignty's final vindication inside that 7000 years, rather than after the end of the millennium. False false prophecy contradicting the bible. still in a hurry. Analize par.7!.
To be fair, "God's" time dilation is also working the other way. For "him" a second has 50x 365 000 frames. Humans 50, flies 250. time flies and almost stops for him .
An eternal being would not move through time at all, still be in the past, and already in the future. now that is patience.