did any of you attend the old school week long conventions?
i have heard stories and it seems like these were mostly in the 70's and 80's before my time.
i couldn't imagine.
1958, 8 long days in 2 nearby stadiums. dawn to dusk activity including work in cafeteria, we served meals! !returning to hotel on subway, not crowded, New Yorkers must have fled knowing we were coming.
highlights? hundreds of busses driving inside Yankee stadium to take baptism candidates to beach. demonstration: skirts were to be allowed on platform.
wt had a lot of forward inertia then, people have become wiser.
remember, remember - darkspilver or darkspliver couldn't even remember his username!
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/282501/calebs-aeroplane-returns-w14-11-15-p-16.
let's consider spilver or spliver's posts - since he likes to do it to others!.
I would not take any posts personally, even if they are. Of course some posters seem to get their jollies out of trying to decimate others, but hey, deal with the substance.
Any defense of wt policies or past is meat for exposure, and we have carnivores here.
for me, i think it was just the right time as i was starting to wake up on other fronts as well (anyone who had went through these will know what i mean).
but it started when i was looking for what info goes on a publisher card, which led to me reading one person's story (ex bethelite) which was pretty crazy to an all-in jw but who trusts those apostates...?.
then i started watching videos on cults, as if my subconscious was trying to tell my concord mind something... when i saw a particular one about a young man in lds getting ready to start their 2 year preaching campaign, including a school, social activities etc, i realized that i couldn't tell the difference between the folks of this mormon cult and the jws (save for some religious differences) .
follow up on earlier, post. . The wake up call came in a dramatic way, as I was defeated in a bible study session of the flagship "Let God be True" book containing the Superior Authorities erroneous teaching, the same day (actually within minutes) hat the new /old light became known to me, via the brown subscription wrapper. Wt had made a fool out of us by making us peddle, back up with our reputation, false doctrines they concocted.
Giving them a second chance to redeem themselves by 1975 (by hedging and building a house), we realize the whole doctrinal structure is false and will have it's defendants hang their heads in shame , better in 1975 then 2075.
for me, i think it was just the right time as i was starting to wake up on other fronts as well (anyone who had went through these will know what i mean).
but it started when i was looking for what info goes on a publisher card, which led to me reading one person's story (ex bethelite) which was pretty crazy to an all-in jw but who trusts those apostates...?.
then i started watching videos on cults, as if my subconscious was trying to tell my concord mind something... when i saw a particular one about a young man in lds getting ready to start their 2 year preaching campaign, including a school, social activities etc, i realized that i couldn't tell the difference between the folks of this mormon cult and the jws (save for some religious differences) .
The restoration of the 1929 Superior Authorities = secular government teaching flip flop in the 60s. It was, after sleep, the early blinking and seeing the dawn. No wt maneuver was the same again, considered possibly true since then for me. It never was true in the first place of course ps.
A false teaching when, in ww2, people were putting their lives their necks on the line, trusting in a solidly, bible based doctrine.
watchtower october 2017, page 11, par.
17 - confess and abandon secret sins.
some christians who have committed a serious sin try to cover it over in order to avoid embarrassing themselves or disappointing others.
darkspilver: was the "James" book not authored by those enlightened ones disfellowshipped in the R. Franz apostate affair? never to be quoted by wt again?
watchtower october 2017, page 11, par.
17 - confess and abandon secret sins.
some christians who have committed a serious sin try to cover it over in order to avoid embarrassing themselves or disappointing others.
Recall the words of the disciple James that we referred to earlier: “Openly confess your sins to one another and pray for one another,
offer the elder (of your suspicious choice) a trade: You confess yours ... fess up, and I will confess mine. after all, we want it clean right?, so you come clean too.
i would like to thank the operators of this website and all the others here who support those who are walking up.
perhaps i'll share some personal story stuff at another time but i've been lurking here for a while, maybe 2 years or so.
finally got the bearings to create an account :).
Never heard of someone having the baptism annulled. heard of re=baptism though, by a person that was not really understanding the dedication that is supposed to precede the immersion. what degree of non-compliance would require doing it again? or have you re-classified as an outsider, or unbaptized "publisher"?
so after being rudely awakened by a cat fight outside (it's 3am here in the uk) and then proceeding to go outside to rescue my cats from the neighbourhood tom....... i'm now laying wide awake trying to make sense of jw "truth".
(it's all my mind does these days, the lights gone on and won't turn off).
anyway i found myself reading about the gb and came across these fellows , greenlees, chapman and chitty.
sorry libby if I was not clear, all these Characters that I met, had to be of the sealed anointed partaker, but only Greenlees and another Chitty actually were ib the leadership Governing body. Capman was the head guyonly in Canada for a while.
so after being rudely awakened by a cat fight outside (it's 3am here in the uk) and then proceeding to go outside to rescue my cats from the neighbourhood tom....... i'm now laying wide awake trying to make sense of jw "truth".
(it's all my mind does these days, the lights gone on and won't turn off).
anyway i found myself reading about the gb and came across these fellows , greenlees, chapman and chitty.
there were all three at one time at Canadian headquarters. but that Chitty was a lowly worker in the shop, not the BG member. wt teaches that only 144000 are sealed to go to heaven since Pentecost 033, nowadays, that is establish if you take the bread and wine.
so all these probably claimed that heavenly calling. but if it actually exists--- your guess.
the time remaining is... elastic.. .
stash: /intesoft-inc.appspot.com/post/f0315d7a1cdf4d6498064881689ea032.html
the time remaining is expropriated by wt of/for all baptized jws. If you withhold any***, or the money equivalent, your time remaining will be drastically lessened., never to reach eternity.so: obey and be blessed.
ps:*** see wt Ananias and Sapphira citations., sins against the HS. jws' time remaining is already gone, one way or another.
