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  Would human settlement of Mars invalidate Bible prophecy?

  by truthseeker in

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  i don't think this topic has been discussed before but yesterday i read something to the effect that trump wants a human mission to mars to be completed within his presidency.. with that being said, the watchtower teaches that what started on earth ends on earth, in other words, the fall of adam and eve would end with the passing of the 1,000 year millennial reign when christ destroys all his enemies, rebellious "perfect" humans, and the devil and his demons who are let out the abyss for a short while.

  he then hands the kingdom back to his father.

  an elder in my old congregation once told us during a public talk that he was an ardent astronomer but then referenced the scripture where it says, "the earth he has given to the sons of men" (psalms 115:16).

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  waton

  A common mistake. The concept of Earth as a planet is a contemporary idea. References to earth in the Bible are invariably references to the land/ground itself.

  TD: a good point. bible writers, until ~ 100 years after Christ did not realize that the ground is not flat, but curves into a ball over the horizon. The geeky Greeks actually measured the curvature, and established the size of the earth with 10% accuracy. ~ 200 Before CE. It became a planet with Kepler ~400 years ago. so :

  Does a settlement of Mars contradict bible prophecies?? : since those predictions require a flat Earth,:------- only if Mars is below the horizon ha ha.
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  Would human settlement of Mars invalidate Bible prophecy?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't think this topic has been discussed before but yesterday i read something to the effect that trump wants a human mission to mars to be completed within his presidency.. with that being said, the watchtower teaches that what started on earth ends on earth, in other words, the fall of adam and eve would end with the passing of the 1,000 year millennial reign when christ destroys all his enemies, rebellious "perfect" humans, and the devil and his demons who are let out the abyss for a short while.

  he then hands the kingdom back to his father.

  an elder in my old congregation once told us during a public talk that he was an ardent astronomer but then referenced the scripture where it says, "the earth he has given to the sons of men" (psalms 115:16).

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  ask the astronauts how it feels to be above and free from Satan's control, Armstrong and co were already above it all.

  feel sorry for the crews that go, to live in those ugly machines. stressed and deprived of beauty there, genetically altered, life shortened.

  I thought the Apollo program violated bible teachings (keep rebels & co confined on the Earth). The seal is already broken. countdown to lift-off, even one way missions.

  An Awake sentence /article once said that we would possibly seed the universe, 60s.( damn the bible) or find a text to twist.
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  Solar power rip off! Aussie government destroyed free electricity. Scum!

  by Witness 007 in

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  so my friends have had free power for years thanks to solar panels and a great contract with power company.

  they even get credits for having 20 panels on thier roof!

  i put 18 solar panels on my roof cost $9900 dollars.

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  waton

  add Moon power, the tides, water coming in and going out.
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  8,000 Filipino Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia?

  by OrphanCrow in

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  pinoy jehovah’s witnesses in russia face deportation.

  philippine daily inquirer / 05:40 am february 24, 2017. baguio city—jehovah’s witnesses (jw) in the philippines have asked the department of foreign affairs (dfa) to intercede on behalf of filipinos who face arrest or deportation in russia for belonging to their faith.. the watchtower bible and tract society of the philippines, the legal and corporate arm of jw, made the appeal when it met dfa officials this week on behalf of more than 8,000 filipino jehovah’s witnesses in russia.. read more: http://globalnation.inquirer.net/152841/pinoy-jehovahs-witnesses-russia-face-deportation#ixzz4f8s5kznb .

  there are 8000 filipino jehovah's witnesses in russia?

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  at least the vodka flows more freely than in Saudi, Doha, one incentive to stay. And you don't have to go h2h anymore.
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  A.N.Z.A.C. Day 25th April 2017.

  by zeb in

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  this day is when there are memorial services across australia and new zealand for our nations' war dead.. on the 25th april 1915 the australian and new zealand army corp' swept ashore at a beach on the mainland of turkey at a place they call galliboli or gallipoli as it is known to us.

  the soldiers were landed at the wrong beach and were shot to hell they faced cliffs and thick coastal scrub.

  they were supposed to be landed some miles further along the coast which was lightly defended and flat sandy beaches.

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  He was not the only one to have another go at it, and improve the record. Playing with precious human lives. brave souls.
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  BBC 4 Thought for the Day Talks about Russian Ban against JWS. by Rev Dr Giles Frazer - 24 April 2017

  by Da.Furious in

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  just started getting on instant messaging platforms an audio clip having rev dr giles fraser talking about the russian ban on jws.. this is very similar to the post on guardian.

  discussed here: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5668600843075584/guardian-russia-persecution-jehovahs-witnesses-begins-all-over-again.

  link to the 3 minute audio clip: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p050zjdq.

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  waton

  Can not open that link, about that day in the 1930s, probably not chosen deliberately by the Russians now, but the latest ban, judicially confirmed last week, was on April 20, for those that are into mysterious dates, as wt is, --that is Hitler's birthday, as I opined: a posthumous birthday gift of the Fuehrer to his adversaries? some will never learn. An ominous sign for these banners, as history has a way of repeating itself. not endorsing.
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-23-2017 WT Study (LEAD)

  by blondie in

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  blondie’s comments you will not hear at the april 23, 2017 wt study (february 2017) (leads).

  excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

  bible translations www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible .

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  waton

  being able to analyze the muck confirms our lucid perception, blondi, darkies et al. perception with the perspective of a hawk.
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  Solar power rip off! Aussie government destroyed free electricity. Scum!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so my friends have had free power for years thanks to solar panels and a great contract with power company.

  they even get credits for having 20 panels on thier roof!

  i put 18 solar panels on my roof cost $9900 dollars.

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  waton

  ds: I was just speculating. solar energy stored would of course be cooling. but using that energy returns the energy, ultimately into heat. The lives of the animals/plants that made the oil /coal cooled the planet, (also stored the carbon) . Us burning it, heats, Reflecting the heat would be a way to cool. solar panels absorb. 20%? and are shiny.

  Even the Solar World Challenge Australian Solar car racers have short time storage batteries to control the juice that powers their wheels. Australia is a great place for solar power use. Arabia too, but they refuse. ha.
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  8,000 Filipino Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia?

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
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  pinoy jehovah’s witnesses in russia face deportation.

  philippine daily inquirer / 05:40 am february 24, 2017. baguio city—jehovah’s witnesses (jw) in the philippines have asked the department of foreign affairs (dfa) to intercede on behalf of filipinos who face arrest or deportation in russia for belonging to their faith.. the watchtower bible and tract society of the philippines, the legal and corporate arm of jw, made the appeal when it met dfa officials this week on behalf of more than 8,000 filipino jehovah’s witnesses in russia.. read more: http://globalnation.inquirer.net/152841/pinoy-jehovahs-witnesses-russia-face-deportation#ixzz4f8s5kznb .

  there are 8000 filipino jehovah's witnesses in russia?

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  waton

  individuals meeting in private homes "to worship" -

  s2: There is the wt's problem, and the reason for their reaction, WT meetings are not really worship ( some songs may be), but sales training / indoctrination seminars.
  
  
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  Atheism = self defeating.

  by towerwatchman in

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  atheism = self defeating.

  first may we define our terms.

  the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.

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  waton

  More importantly, if this God was all alone in the beginning, how could he have developed a language that would have allowed him to--

  JM: a deist creator would speak Createse, or Makeish. in a monologue.

  Our universe started in a point of time, a point in larger field. energy is thought by some to be fundamental also.

  That creator would not have to be all-knowing, just intelligent enough to create the universe, a few points higher than the scientist that explain it us.