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  Atheism = self defeating.

  by towerwatchman in

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  atheism = self defeating.

  first may we define our terms.

  the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.

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  doubtfull1799

  I think you'll find atheists in general (though I can't speak for all, because like all groups there will be differences in individual outlook) don't see themselves as denying the existence of God in an absolute sense as you claim, they merely say they don't have enough evidence at this point in time to accept the existence of one, not that their couldn't possibly be one, or that they wouldn't accept the evidence for one if such evidence came to light.

  The term "atheist" is a very loose one and is a generalisation for a broad range of ideas that are subtle different. I don't think people who call themselves athiests would limit themselves or define themselves to fit YOUR particular definition.
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  Spiritual food from the org on the same level as the Bible?

  by CitizenofEarth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello to you all again.. i just told my father:"be carefull that you do not put the so called spiritual food at the same level, or on the same pedestal, as the bible.

  it is clear to me that they are not.

  " to me, at the moment, this is self evident.

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  “Rather than stifling further research, the Bible encourages the search for answers to both scientific and spiritual questions. Job 38:18 certainly does not suggest stifling of inquiry and investigation. On the contrary, the Master Designer here invited a study of his handiwork.” - w07 August 15 p5

  Compare this quote with the KM article - classic Watchtower double speak! Thank you George Orwell, what a genius!
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  Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses launches worldwide campaign againt Russia

  by jwleaks in

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  2. scandals

  jehovah's witnesses mobilize global response to threat of ban in russia.

  march 21, 2017. https://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/russia/jw-mobilize-global-response-to-threat-of-ban/.

  new york—threatened with an imminent ban on their worship in russia, jehovah’s witnesses are responding with a direct appeal to kremlin and supreme court officials for relief through a global letter-writing campaign.

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  Feed the persecution complex, unite the brothers in common action - that is how they think. No matter that this is in effect a political act of lobbying, which they claim to never do.

  I have to laugh at the first item in the listed instructions - "make your participation a matter of prayer." As many have pointed out, prayer should be enough if Gods HS is truly powerful, and it should be unnecessary to commit this non-neutral act of lobbying.

  Seems Jehovah's purpose is going backwards? After giving Him the credit for "freeing" the brothers from ban in the 80's, are we now to conclude it is his purpose to let them go back underground? After "opening up" the work, he is now closing it again? He sure is contrary!

  And why aren't we writing letters to other countries where we are not free to worship, like China for example?
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  Observations From an Ex-Elder Part 3 - Searching for the Lost Sheep

  by doubtfull1799 in

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  2. experiences

  "what man among you with 100 sheep, on losing one of them, will not leave the 99 behind in the wilderness and go after the lost one until he finds it?

  " - luke 15:4. disclaimer: by posting the following observations i am not complaining.

  i am happy to be left alone.

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  Thanks Blondie. Isn't it interesting that not one of those articles mentions a common reason we become inactive - doctrinal or ethical reasons. Every one of them places the blame squarely on the inactive one - for being weak, selfish etc....
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  Observations From an Ex-Elder Part 3 - Searching for the Lost Sheep

  by doubtfull1799 in

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  2. experiences

  "what man among you with 100 sheep, on losing one of them, will not leave the 99 behind in the wilderness and go after the lost one until he finds it?

  " - luke 15:4. disclaimer: by posting the following observations i am not complaining.

  i am happy to be left alone.

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  doubtfull1799

  Thanks joe134cd - very interesting reading through your thread.
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  "Isn't it disgusting?", a sister said to me in service today

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "sorry, what's disgusting?

  ", i replied.

  "that thing we've just called on", the sister said in response.

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  Whatever happened to "hate the sin, not the sinner?"
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  Spiritual food from the org on the same level as the Bible?

  by CitizenofEarth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello to you all again.. i just told my father:"be carefull that you do not put the so called spiritual food at the same level, or on the same pedestal, as the bible.

  it is clear to me that they are not.

  " to me, at the moment, this is self evident.

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  Great how the subtly imply in paragraph 4 that you are being "selfish" if your research interferes in the "unified Good news" and further imply that any independent research amounts to "foolish questionings." Then they go own to recommend studying a book that is now unavailable and out of print: "All Scripture in Inspired" Who knows how much longer the Insight books will still be relevant.

  Notice to how they use a "straw man" argument in paragraph two - they use the extreme case of brothers publishing websites or holding conferences to try and de-legitimise what started out in paragraph 1 as just brothers "meeting together to discuss."
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  Reading Deuteronomy chapter 28 , oh my!

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what's telling chapter!

  in the first 15 verses if one kept the laws and pure worship of the temples god things were great and you would be blessed.

  but starting in verse 16 if you didn't holy cow!

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  Oh my indeed. 15 verses of blessings versus over 40 verses of cruel and horrible maledictions! And we are told, not just that Jehovah will "allow" them to happen, but that he will "delight" to inflict them personally! This flies in the face of JW theology.
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  Observations From an Ex-Elder Part 3 - Searching for the Lost Sheep

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  "what man among you with 100 sheep, on losing one of them, will not leave the 99 behind in the wilderness and go after the lost one until he finds it?

  " - luke 15:4. disclaimer: by posting the following observations i am not complaining.

  i am happy to be left alone.

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  doubtfull1799

  I think you're right millie210. There is an element of fear, and in the end they have no real answers, nothing to give.
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  Observations From an Ex-Elder Part 3 - Searching for the Lost Sheep

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  "what man among you with 100 sheep, on losing one of them, will not leave the 99 behind in the wilderness and go after the lost one until he finds it?

  " - luke 15:4. disclaimer: by posting the following observations i am not complaining.

  i am happy to be left alone.

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  doubtfull1799

  Thats very sad no-zombie. Thanks for sharing your story. It does seem that the so-called "brotherhood" is very flimsy when put to the test. There are always the exceptional people that will act like true brothers, the ones Proverbs talks about that are borne for times of distress, but they don't seem to be any more prevalent in the congregation than they are in the general population... It's nice that we could enjoy the brotherhood on a superficial level (always have something in common with people no matter where we went in the world), but on a deeper level, that brotherhood disintigrates.