i had no doubts at all about the 'truth' untill a friend of mine in the cong' began falling away.
in trying to help him i had to ask questions and do research and that of course cracked the doors of my mind open for the first time in over thirty years.. years ago, when jwd allowed members to have signatures, i used the following quote from voltaire as mine.
i still love it.. doubt is uncomfortable, certainty is ridiculous..
i watched a video series on jesus in the old testament and what new testament writers were referrencing from the old testament.
It was actual quite simple. It was literally like the expression cant see the forest because of all trees.
Not saying i am joe jesus or anything but the bible does point in a single direction. The wts is a nutty conspiracy theory and they are so full of shit they literally dont know if they are coming or going.
the most ridiculous of all dogmas anywhere in the universe is the very foundation of churchianity.....thus, all their other claims are just blah, blah!.
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Explain to us the physical manifestion of god in the old testament called the lord of the lord and how that relates to the new testament ?
the most ridiculous of all dogmas anywhere in the universe is the very foundation of churchianity.....thus, all their other claims are just blah, blah!.
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the question is going to start a thread in 6 months stating how he has explored all the denominations of Christianity and how the wts isnt perfect but closest to the truth blah blah blah
the most ridiculous of all dogmas anywhere in the universe is the very foundation of churchianity.....thus, all their other claims are just blah, blah!.
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Good god
Before entering into a theological discuss ion about the trinity or diety of christ, you need some kind of reference point.
Again, learn who the new testament writers thought jesus was and how it comes from the old testament. Its the very reason i stopped attending meetings.
the most ridiculous of all dogmas anywhere in the universe is the very foundation of churchianity.....thus, all their other claims are just blah, blah!.
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in the old testament god is invisible or no one can see the face of god and live. Yet god seems to deal with people in some form of manifestation. Now that being the angel of the lord or word of the lord.
Now looking into the new testament its pretty obvious the writers believed jesus was this old testament manifestation of god.
Now how this becomes the trinity, i dont know but jehovah witnesses have no right to be critical. They dont even understand basic christology.
when i was young everybody used to fantasise constantly about how brave we would all need to be "when the persecution comes".
we worried about what "they" would do to us and how we would never talk or betray other jws.
psychologically it was a damaging environment for children; but maybe that's another topic.. who would have thought that when it finally came it would take the form of being sued for protecting pedophiles.
I have often thought the lack of evangelical work in the islamic world is a real testament they dont even buy there own bullshit.
Try being a Christian in mosul iraq right now. Of course that will never make any awake cover.
in isaiah 7:14 "therefore jehovah himself will give you men a sign look the maiden herself will actually become pregnant and she is giving birth to a son and she will certainly call his name immanuel".
this scripture is attributed to the virgin birth of jesus from his mother mary to become the messiah.
the problem is the name of the messiah isnt jesus its immanuel .
Immanuel is used more as a title than an actual name meaning " god with us".
Its like calling Steve Austin the rattlesnake. Sorry for the stupid wrestling analogy. Its all i could think of.
i am a bereavement coordinator with a hospice company.
i have noticed that most often jw patients decline chaplain care and also the family ends up declining bereavement care.
where i work our chaplains do not proselytize at all...they merely walk with the patient in their faith at the end of life.
The watchtower and tract society pay alot of lipservice to god, jesus and the bible but in reality it is just a belief in seven magical men in new york and though your works and obedience and works to these men and the organization they lead you will survive Armageddon.
The average jw looks at you with disgust and contempt. Thats why they reject your services.
following the news of stuckinarut2, over the past few months my wife has completely mentally woken up.
i've been meaning to post but haven't had the time.
i saw stuckins post and i figured i'd add my news too.
Did the stupidity of the loyalty assembly have anything to do with it? Good god i felt like i was on the jonestowns compound.
i cannot think of a single doctrine that is so clearly laid out in the bible that every christian sect teaches the same point.
are there any doctrine where there is total consensus amongst all christian religions, including jehovah's witnesses?.
I have an uncle who has pastored Baptist, Mennonite and evangelical churches. I really have to disagree that there are huge dogmatic gaps between 98% of christian churches.
Ex dubs have a tough time even after believing that you can be a Christian without a telemarketer package. How can we be christians if dont all have the same view of the book of relevations etc etc.
The idea of tenets of faith and the rest are just details is so alien to the jws.
