does anyone out there know of any jws that have talked about what their personal relationship with jehovah was like?
for example, hearing his voice, a certain feeling?
an intellectual understanding?
I really don't understand the theological basis of how it's is possible to have a relationship with God while believing you don't enter into the new convanent. It's Kind Of the point of the new testament.
Take For example the idea your child gets hit by a drunk driver and is bleeding to death, your relationship with jehovah tells you to not do everything possible to save your child's life. I call bullshit.
I believe there is something but I don't think your faith should violate your conscience.
this is new to me.. i was always taught things like "god is everywhere".. now the folks in warwick are tearing that into shreds with their spiritual enlightenment.. https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/god-omnipresent/.
god is able to see everything and to act anywhere he chooses.
(proverbs 15:3; hebrews 4:13) however, the bible does not teach that god is omnipresent—that is, present everywhere, in all things.
It has to do with the idea that God needed a physical manifestation to deal with human beings with that being Jesus.
Jehovah witness don't believe that so they limited gods ability.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.
no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.
instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .
It's mockery. There is a dark and evil force in this world.
Stuff like this makes even the most devout atheist really question there faith or lack of. It's literally so stupid you can't help but believe there is something supernatural behind it.
for those who've never read these incredible books by our friend ray franz.. here are links for both.
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happy reading!.
Just for fun I asked this used book store clerk if she had the book crisis of conscience. She knew exactly what I was talking about and she said she was asked for it quite regularly. Unfortunately she didn't have it at the time.
Kind of me feel like I am not alone in the universe. We are everywhere.
hello all - so me and stuckinarut2 are at the state library proving to ourselves that wt has it all wrong re: 607. i've read at length jwfacts, jwsurvey and crisis of conscience that all go into the subject and i've just downloaded gentile times reconsidered.. while it is fabulous to have someone else compile all the research and evidence for you, it is quite another to see it in print for yourself - and so, here we are.. while we wait for our array of books i couldn't help but share with you how the state library has catalogued jewish history - 586 bc to 70 ad.
no mention of 607 as a key date as far as the library's catalogue is concerned!!
evidence before we have our books!!.
I have always found the 607 debate kind of a moot point.
I always thought after reading Daniel 4 and realizing the whole formula is nothing ctr taught prior to 1914, you could see the obvious scripture twisting nonsense.
i normally don't bother going to the midweek jw meetings much.
however, upon reading in the april 2017 meeting workbook that there was to be a video about erich frost (former do for saxony & nazi prisoner in sachsenhausen concentration camp) i wanted to attend as i had read about this brother in history texts by detlef garbe and hans hesse.
i had also visited auschwitz several times and noted that the museum had a display / exhibition about jehovah's witnesses.
I think you should learn the difference between the extermination camps and concentration camps. Watchtards were nothing but free Labour and had a better survival rate was much than getting sent to the front line, especially the Soviet front which was hell on earth.
i normally don't bother going to the midweek jw meetings much.
however, upon reading in the april 2017 meeting workbook that there was to be a video about erich frost (former do for saxony & nazi prisoner in sachsenhausen concentration camp) i wanted to attend as i had read about this brother in history texts by detlef garbe and hans hesse.
i had also visited auschwitz several times and noted that the museum had a display / exhibition about jehovah's witnesses.
I have come to the conclusion that baby-sitting the ss children while they were putting babies in ovens isn't quite as noble as the watchtards like to think it is.
I am so sick of hearing about the brave witnesses if WW2. Collaborating cowards.
so i've been a lurked on this site for about 15 years, thank goodness for dial up internet.... anyway my fade has been working off and on for that long but my whole family is still in including my kid.
at this point i have started dating a worldly person.
he is wiling to put onthe facade of being a witness so i don't have to lose my family.
How old are you?
There is a point where it is really none of their business. So what, you get marked. All it means is you can't hang with a bunch of phonies.
One meeting a month. Come late, leave early.
one thing that surprised me shortly after joining this site was the number of individuals who, after experiencing the deception of being a jw and the hypocrisy of the “truth”, switched to being catholic or “born-again” evangelists.
it seemed to me like jumping from the hot pan into the fire.. i don’t want to piss anyone off for his or her choices.
i feel everyone is free to believe what they may.
I sometimes feel like Charlie Brown listening to his teacher listening to this constant variation of the same idea.
japan had a handful of witnesses after ww 2....this number skyrocketed to 222,912 by 1998!
then something happened.
publisher figures didn't stop, they dropped by thousands over the next decade!.
To be fair Japan actually has a shrinking population. Everything is in decline.
