when we got to paragraphs 10,11 with the reference to the box at the top of the page - is your teaching up-to-date?
the conductor asked for an explanation of what the current 'bible truth' was.
for the first one, 'this generation (matt 24:34) absolutely nobody raised their hand!
Oubliette said: How does anything in the July 15, 2013 WT change any of the three points in the box at the top of the page in last week's Study Article?
As an example look at point #2 (Separating of the sheeps from the goats). Compare that with paragraph 11 in the July WT study article on page 6.
when we got to paragraphs 10,11 with the reference to the box at the top of the page - is your teaching up-to-date?
the conductor asked for an explanation of what the current 'bible truth' was.
for the first one, 'this generation (matt 24:34) absolutely nobody raised their hand!
My apologies for the poor wording in the original description. I was not implying that the generation thing had also changed. Just that we had the awkward silence (on the generation) question and then we progressed to the next 2 points with old/new light.
The question for paragraph 8 was so tempting, but I couldn't bring myself to do it.
8: Briefly share a spiritual gem that you discovered in your Bible reading.
All of the answers were wt-approved. I wouldn't be suprised if the ones chosen to answer that were pre-selected. It just seems too risky.
We also had 1 paragraph where an older brother was going on about how much he read the bible but got cut-off when he paused to take a breath. But even without the microphone he kept on going for another 2 minutes. It was hilarious (if that is possible at he kh)...
comments you will not hear at the 06-09-2013 wt study (april 15, 2013, pages 7-11)(read bible).
4. what does it mean to read the bible in an undertone?.
1:6) how, then, are we to understand jesus words about this generation?
I think your closing comments highlight the real issue. Many can't even recite what the current 'understanding' is, never mind defend it.
Can't wait to get to the July issue!
when we got to paragraphs 10,11 with the reference to the box at the top of the page - is your teaching up-to-date?
the conductor asked for an explanation of what the current 'bible truth' was.
for the first one, 'this generation (matt 24:34) absolutely nobody raised their hand!
When we got to paragraphs 10,11 with the reference to the box at the top of the page - Is your teaching up-to-date? The conductor asked for an explanation of what the current 'bible truth' was. For the first one, 'this generation (Matt 24:34) absolutely nobody raised their hand! My wife had to leave for the restroom at that point. Finally some brave trooper answered the question by reading verbatim a 2 sentence explanation of current WT 'understanding'. Quick shuffle to the next points.
A couple of elders who obviously were aware of the 'new/new truths' in July WT were falling all over themselves trying to dance around the fact that what was printed in this issue as being up-to-date was in fact out of date!
At least it resulted in a nice discussion on the way home with the wife.
If I can just turn down the anger level a bit, this July issue could turn out very well for me (and lot's of others too I hope).
jdubs are fond of quoting peter "where are we to go lord"... well the answer for me has been this forum for last couple of years which is really sad because i should be able to talk to my lifelong friends instead of faceless avatars.
( don't get me wrong this place has helped me through some really rough times mentally kudos to terry, cedars,slimboyfat, blondie,jwfacts and many others.).
the shun gun has prevented me from making the move completely out of this cult i have given my life to.
Also in the same boat. I think my wife is actually doing more jw related activities to try and counter-act my fade.
It is extremely frustrating. Keep in mind Billy's recent advice about 'anger management'. Something I need to work on for sure.
we translate into all these languages.
even the ones that may seem small, like the blackfoot native american.
and when we go and take the message to them they just cant believe this is in their mother tongue.
Apparently there was also a lot of encouragement to go to 3rd world countries where the need is greater (and you will experience more joy) but you have to count the cost (foot the bill yourself). No help from WTBT$. Nada. Nic. So strange since the work is so urgent. Couldn't they devote some of the funds from recent property sales in Brooklyn to sponsor a few families in Ecuador or Botswana? Really, how much would that even cost?
even then it will be just be a sunday to see if the fall off come true, or not.. heck this year and next will probally just enough to make it look like i showed up for it.
thankfully i live around the city it's held in i so it's not a huge sacrafice..
I missed last year, and woud like to miss this year, but may end up going on Saturday just to hear the 'Apostate' talks first hand.
joke.
man, its nice to be free.
what did you do today instead?.
I spent some time cleaning up the yard. We have 5 dogs of various sizes and although I have a big yard, it needs to be done frequently. The dung beetles can only process so much. But even this task is more enjoyable than having to attend a meeting. My wife told me today they saw a 'wonderful' film presented by the CO about the translation work - with guest/cameo appearance from G. Jackson of GB fame.
are they warm?.
do they view you as an apostate?.
(generally, most witnesses are quite nice to me)..
Obviously, I have been marked by the 'holier' ones at the hall. On the rare occasion I go, I get the usual - we missed you Friday night thing from a few and the rest apparently don't even see me.
One young brother asked me if I had prayed for a different job so I wouldn't miss so many meetings. I told him that I thanked JHVH everday that I have the job I do (can work from home, make 4 times the average national salary, it is interesting, etc). We have the CO this week, so I know the wife will be on me to at least go Sunday. This CO is a real company man. I swear the last time he was there, he looked directly at me with a cold, dead stare as he tried to drive home the point that we need to obey the GB.
As a few others mentioned: no big loss for me. There are some nice people at the hall, but there are lots of nice people outside the hall too! I don't need their conditional love/friendship and I don't have any family in except the wife.
a real dwelling for the faithful.
dwelling for his name people today?
8, 9. in what ways did jehovah prove to be a. real dwelling for jacob, and what can we learn.
My favorite quote from paragraph 11:
They were men of principle who did not depend on a long list
of dos and don’ts to guide them. What
they knew about Jehovah and his personality was
sufficient for them.
They forgot to add: But, Jehovah's servants are not like that today. We need a long list of dos and don'ts and we need someone (GB) to explain it to us.
Of course, nobody made a comment about this part of the paragraph and the conductor avoided it too.
