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  Letter to Britain Branch - re 'Shunning policy'

  by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

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  jm............................ watchtower .

  the ridgeway.

  london.

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  konceptual99

  Thanks for sharing but you do realise letters like this get dumped in the bin as soon as they are opened and the first line read.
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  Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

  by atomant in

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  just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

  that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

  but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

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  Prologos.... WTF are you talking about?

  The recent past has seen extraordinary levels of woo and mumbo jumbo. Every opportunity for rational debate about the existence and influence of deity has deteriorated into pseudo science, numerolgy, philosophical jerk offs and, ultimately, utter bollocks. Every time this is instigated by those claiming some supernatural influence.

  Why is it impossible for anyone who has some belief in a deity to frame their reasoning with rational and logical thinking? Is this not some massive red flag?
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  New Dutch Assembly Hall Swifterbant - 17 September 2016

  by darkspilver in

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  a new 2,500 seater assembly hall in the netherlands - which expands to 3,500 seats for the annual conventions - is being dedicated on saturday 17 september 2016.. the existing hall on the site is converted into a venue for the wt schools - lecture room with ancillary accomodation - bedrooms, kitchen, canteen, study areas etc etc.

  background information:.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/261089/big-jw-changes-netherlands-holland.

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  konceptual99

  Expect to see more of this. I am convinced they will use assembly hall facilities for RCs more and more. I note this is very utilitarian - it looks like a warehouse. Cheap to build and very easily flipped if needed.

  I also note the two guys, presumably brothers, are not wearing suits and ties.
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  Reason's why it is so difficult to leave

  by Truthexplorer in

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  1. concerns about the effects it would have on yours and your family's social life.. 2. fear of being shunned.

  3. the stress it will cause.

  4. the thought of feeling isolated.

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  konceptual99

  I agree in principle with the reasons and the overall philosophy of "whatever works". I am in the situation of a long, long fade and see my own rationalisation in much of what has been posted above.

  The problem I have with myself is that I basically feel that now I am simply not being true to myself and my family. I'm not really pushing my real feelings and essentially I am being dishonest with myself and those around me. Right now it feels like a limbo and the person responsible for it is me.

  For example... the other day my wife and I had a meal out and one of the courses included black pudding. I had no problem eating it yet my wife said nothing. She's not challenged me on it at all. I think she is accepts that my lack of belief in the blood policy but does not want to discuss it as it will lead on to a much larger discussion. The time and place might not have been right for us but now this is just something in the past. She's not challenging it and I'm not using it as a chance to open a conversation.

  In the meantime I keep the peace with irregular meeting attendance and never upsetting the apple cart with our friends and family. Whose the fool? Whose not getting what they really want?
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  Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

  that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

  but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

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  I'm not complaining Prologos. The cycle of death to support life is natural, even if we as a species have turned it into an industrial process.

  My point is that you can't, unlike our former JW selves, use some perceived pattern or beauty in nature to support the idea of a deity without accepting that that deity must also take responsibility for the crap that is handed out as well.

  The sunrise was no doubt beautiful over Thailand the morning of the tsunami....
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  Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

  that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

  but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

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  PS:I am fascinated by all this because if there is a creator, the track record he has left behind is the only really evidence we can access

  Yup, his track record in allowing an overwhelming amount of pain and suffering to persist over 1000's of years tells me that if he exists then he's a c***.

  
  
  
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  Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

  that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

  but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

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  Someone voted me down. At least that's what they thought they did. In my world all numbers mean whatever I want them to mean. Thanks for the glowing endorsement.

  Prove that I am wrong with your NASA numbers.
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  Experience You'll Never Hear at The Conventions: I write Porn Part Time and Pioneer!

  by MTSman in

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  i’m a pioneer in city of brotherly love.

  (yeah i said my city.

  don’t give a fuck) most pioneers who need extra money, get a part gig working as a security guard, barista, or making sandwiches for a few bucks an hour.

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  konceptual99

  The only thing holds me back is I don't think I've got your talent for fiction.

  Nice one SBF
  
  
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  Shunning of Inactive ones- JW Broadcast

  by Theburstbubble in

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  i've heard the new take on shunning inactive ones.

  i've seen the videos from the assemblies, but a few have mentioned that it was in a broadcast.

  does anyone know which broadcast it was, or a link to that section...i really don't want to have to watch the whole thing!.

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  konceptual99

  I expect there will be some reinforcement of the reminder through the pages of the WT at some point - most stuff at the conventions makes it into there at some point.

  As has been oft repeated now, there is really nothing new here, just a reminder of past counsel.
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  Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

  that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

  but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

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  konceptual99

  I think this thread needs some pseudo philosophy to make it even more like all the other science v nonsense threads we have had.

  It's time to ask what are numbers actually? What do they mean beyond whatever meaning our individual minds ascribe to them? How is a number in my head the same as a number in your head? Numbers used by NASA don't have any more validity than numbers used by me in my head so don't try and tell me I am wrong just because my numbers mean something that you cannot fathom. You don't have a monopoly on the definition of numbers.

  There we go. It's all better now.