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  JWs Demonstrating against the Demonstrators

  by Listener in

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  the organization never ceases to amaze.you've got to see this video for yourself so i won't say much about it.

  i wonder if this practice has been endorsed and sanctioned by the governing body and if we will see more of it in the future.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbuxbx1ktci.

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  konceptual99

  I've seen this type of thing done before where "watchmen" and attendants are used to surround people. It's a bit silly as most dubs are conditioned to ignore this stuff anyway.
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  Seeking support ... Where can a Christian go

  by Sevan in

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  hey all, .

  so i recently posted for the first time and introduced myself.. i have been spending time reading various posts.

  some informative, some not so much.. since i've been reading on here, i've read a lot from atheists.

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  konceptual99

  Cofty, You have avoided the point. Did you call me dishonest? Is it substantiated? Making unsubstantiated allegations is attacking someone. My view of attacking people is different from yours. Your evidence does not back up your conclusions my evidence backs up my conclusions. You have not been able to refute my evidence.

  Cofty, I have been searching for the post because I knew you would ask. But sadly I can't find it. The point is I know I am honest. Your allegations are unsubstantiated, and I feel attacked by you now, just because I disagree with you it doesn't mean I am dishonest.

  Why does it always get to this nonsense?

  Kate, from my reading of the thread you came out of nowhere with an allegation that Cofty had accused you of dishonesty and attacked you. Cofty has asked you for the example which you can't provide and now he's attacking you even more apparently. He hasn't made any allegations - how the hell can he be attacking you?

  IMHO Kate you have the background that should mean you are flying the flag for theists here, able to provide a reasonable case for how belief in a God can be squared with science. Your qualifications are way above mine so I'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  Cofty may be terse sometimes but he is (IMHO) usually fair and always presents empirical evidence to support his view. Time and time again however, rebuttals end up being centred on "feelings" and unsubstantiated "reasons". Calling that out as intellectual dishonesty is not a personal attack, it's simply the truth.
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  Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  2. beliefs

  here is an idea i tested.

  works at both assemblies and conventions.

  i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

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  All you have to do is put a password on. I would not let anyone connect for the exact reasons you discuss but if there is a complex password then it's essentially just showing the SSID.

  I was going to use an old phone but I just tried it and it needs a SIM and I don't have a spare one.
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  Chelmsford is green-lighted

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like chelmsford is going ahead after all.

  here is the text of a letter to be read out this week:.

  to all congregations in britain and irelandre: branch relocation project updatedear brothers:we rejoice to inform you that in june of this year, the governing body gave approval for thebritain branch to relocate to new facilities that will be constructed just south of chelmsford.

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  konceptual99

  I'm not a spelling or grammar nazi, but I just had to highlight the typo "scared service" as it was so funny - rich in ambiguity.

  hahaha! My Freudian fat fingers.

  
  
  
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  Mobile Hotspot - JWFACTS.COM - Assembly & Conventions

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is an idea i tested.

  works at both assemblies and conventions.

  i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.

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  konceptual99

  Just to bump this back. I am off to the RC near me soon and planning on doing the mobile HS thing again.

  I am going to do "Follow Kevin - jwfacts.com".

  I'd love to see more hot spots around as well as it would be a cool way of knowing there are others awake around about.
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  Chelmsford is green-lighted

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like chelmsford is going ahead after all.

  here is the text of a letter to be read out this week:.

  to all congregations in britain and irelandre: branch relocation project updatedear brothers:we rejoice to inform you that in june of this year, the governing body gave approval for thebritain branch to relocate to new facilities that will be constructed just south of chelmsford.

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  It's a great way to hours in. I know a few people who go up to Chelmsford already on a part time basis (once a week or so). They are pioneers and are able to count every hour they spend, including travel time, towards their allowance.

  They leave around 5 am and get back around 8 pm - 14-15 hours per week.

  So that's the vast majority of their monthly target done doing NOTHING towards the preaching work but the figures still go into the pot and they still can walk around the KH and RC with chubbies on boasting about how much they do in "scared service".
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  2016 convention. Was there a leaflet / public invitation campaign this year?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  just wondering if there was the usual hyped up leaflet distribution campaign this year or not?.

  as the convention seems more focussed on an "internal" message to keep witnesses loyal, did they want the public there?.

  and what would first time attenders really think if they heard the convention content?

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  konceptual99

  There was a campaign. This is the invite...

  https://download-a.akamaihd.net/files/media_books/a7/CO-invpw16_E.pdf
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  Article: Jehovah’s Witnesses Promote Police Hatred at Summer Conventions

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
  2. current

  bad timing for the bunker video with all the police drama going on.. https://www.the-newshub.com/general/jehovahs-witnesses-promote-police-hatred-at-summer-conventions.

  recently one member after viewing the video material was triggered into climbing a bridge in australia and screaming about the ‘great tribulation” coming at any minute.

  see picture above..

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  konceptual99

  Do we even know if the guy in Oz was a Witness? Don't forget as we'll that it's winter there and they don't have the convention for months. Regardless, one guy with clear mental health issues does not constitute a global move by Witnesses to resist the police.
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  Chelmsford is green-lighted

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looks like chelmsford is going ahead after all.

  here is the text of a letter to be read out this week:.

  to all congregations in britain and irelandre: branch relocation project updatedear brothers:we rejoice to inform you that in june of this year, the governing body gave approval for thebritain branch to relocate to new facilities that will be constructed just south of chelmsford.

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  konceptual99

  2020...? Bbbbbbbuuuutttt I thought jehober blessed things so the unacheivable can be achieved. 4 years is a hell of a timescale for this.
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  Study article: "Go, and Make Disciples.." is a hot mess

  by Sanchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i hooked into meeting via phone this week to listen in and was shocked at the absurdities mentioned in the study article (2016 may watchtower: "go,..and make disciples of people of all the nations").

  the answer is obvious—only jehovah’s witnesses.

  the answer the missionary priest gave in no way proves that jws are the only ones "preaching the good news".

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  konceptual99

  When I was begining to wake up to ttatt it was difficult to ignore the idea that the jw's were carrying out the world wide preaching work.

  Except they are not. Vast areas and populations of the earth have no meaningful representation. Virtually the whole of North Africa and the Middle East is blind to Jehovah's Witnesses. The ratio of publishers to population in places like China and the Indian sub-continent is so great as to be as effective as a chocolate teapot. Even in countries with well established Witness presence the actual effectiveness of the ministry has to be questioned given the low conversion rates and appalling understanding of even basic Witness teachings amongst the general population.

  The ministry is a colossal waste of time. 1.9 billion hours (supposedly) spent in the ministry last year. That's 1.9 BILLION hours. Sounds amazing, except only 260k people were baptised. That's over 7400 hours or 2.5 years of 8 hour day preaching to bring one person into "da troof".

  Not only that, the 260k baptisms offset a drop of 242k elsewhere as the net increase over the year was only 18,000 people.

  The whole thing is the biggest waste of time ever and if Jehovah is blessing this work then I would hate to see it without his attention.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5162895939731456/statistics-spreadsheets-opinion