So far, although dub land will be exploding with excitement, all they have done on the "new light" side of things is to admit there is yet more they actually know less about.
konceptual99
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Is the AGM today?
by hamsterbait inanybody going or who can give us the noolite hot from the gb a$$?.
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Is the AGM today?
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Sorry. It's the poor editing on iPad. Hopefully a bit easier now.
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Is the AGM today?
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Just for the record... so all know what the insight book did say....
Identification of Gog. The lands and peoples mentioned in the prophecy relating to Gog are known from the Bible and to some extent from secular history. But efforts to identify Gog with some historically known earthly ruler have not been successful. Most frequently suggested is Gyges, king of Lydia in western Asia Minor, called Guggu in the records of Assyrian monarch Ashurbanipal. ( AncientRecords of Assyria and Babylonia, by D. Luckenbill, 1927, Vol. II, pp. 297, 351, 352) Gyges, however, had died decades before the writing of Ezekiel’s prophecy. Hence, such identification is unacceptable. Additionally, the prophecy itself places Gog’s attack in “the final part of the years,” “in the final part of the days.” ( Eze 38:8, 16 ; compare Isa 2:2; Jer 30:24; 2Ti 3:1 .) For these reasons, the name Gog is evidently cryptic or symbolic, not being that of any known human king or leader.
The evidence points to a fulfillment in what is elsewhere called “the time of the end.” ( Da 11:35; 12:9 ; compare Re 12:12 .) Bible scholars and commentators generally recognize the prophecy as relating to the time of the Messianic Kingdom. As an example, The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge comments: “Gog appears as the leader of the last hostile attack of the world-powers upon the kingdom of God.” (Edited by S. Jackson, 1956, Vol. V, p. 14) No fulfillment on natural Israel is known. The fulfillment in “the final part of the days” logically is with regard to spiritual Israel, the Christian congregation ( Ro 2:28, 29; Ga 6:16 ), described by the apostle Paul as children of, and directed by, the “Jerusalem above.” ( Ga 4:26 ) These points aid in arriving at the identification of Gog.
Further aid is found in the book of Revelation. Prophetic visions there foretold a great increase in persecution against the Christian congregation on the part of the symbolic dragon, Satan the Devil. This was to follow his being cast down, with his demons, from the heavens to the region of the earth, an act accomplished by the Kingdom of God through Christ at the time of Jesus’ beginning to exercise kingly authority. ( Re 12:5-10, 13-17 ) The massing of earthly nations against God, his Son, and God’s faithful servants on earth figures prominently in these visions, as does also the total defeat and desolation of such enemy forces. ( Re 16:13-16; 17:12-14; 19:11-21 ) The feasting by birds on the corpses of such enemies of Christ’s Kingdom rule likewise finds a correspondency here.—Compare Eze 39:4, 17-20 with Re 19:21 .
The central figure, or leader, of the earth-wide assault against the Messianic Kingdom and its subjects, according to Revelation, is Satan the Devil. He is the only person in the Biblical record who can be said to fulfill adequately the description and role assigned to ‘Gog of Magog’ in the prophecy given to Ezekiel. The prophecy in Ezekiel concerning Gog therefore points to a vicious, earth-wide assault on God’s people, an assault engineered and led by the abased Satan the Devil. This attack is what triggers the complete wiping out of such Satanic forces by means of God’s awesome power.— Eze 38:18-22 .
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Great work Absalom
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Now the New UK Bethel has a Web Site
by Slidin Fast inyep, more internet usage.
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http://www.templefarmdevelopment.co.uk.
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konceptual99
The web site has been around for months. I am sure it was mentioned here then.
Good to be reminded of it though!
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Not on JW.Org: Will Armagedon arrive for Jehovah's witnesses before 12:00 Pm EST 10/2/2014 ??
by Balaamsass2 inwell it will be 100 yrs for jehovah's witnesses on 10/2/2014 12pm est.
will armagedon happen?
100yrs is a very long generation, two or three.
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Is the actual date not in a few days time due to the difference between the solar and lunar calendars?
Here is something from the uber dub "scholars" on another site....
2520 years of gentile times began and ended on Tishri 15, which began at sundown on October 4 in 1914. However, due to the differences between the solar and lunar calendar, the actual anniversary from year to year might be many days before or after, for the same reason that Nisan 14 is a different date each year.
Of course arbitrary anniversaries have nothing to do with the great tribulation whatsoever. (Acts 1:7) But for those keeping an eye out just in case, the exact 100th anniversary this year doesn't come on October 2nd, or 4th, or 5th, this year Tishri 15 lasts from sundown October 8 to sundown October 9. -
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Brave Ex Elder sues over defamation over fraud claims.
by Slidin Fast inthis looks interesting, this guy is bringing the right to family life into his case.
many have thought of doing this.
maybe a good test case.. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/jehovahs-witness-sues-for-150000-after-church-snubbed-him-over-fraud-claims-9750062.html.
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BTTT - anyone know how this is progressing, especially in the light of another thread discussing threating elders with legal action if one is announced as "no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses"?
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UK KH projection equipment
by Saltheart Foamfollower inas everyone knows, there have been major changes in kh financing recently.
this means that congs should only have funds equal to 3 months expenditure on hand - send the rest to the borg.
in the uk there has also been an appeal to send extra funds to finance the new bethel (if we are going to print our own literature and show videos on the doors, why do they need a new bethel?).
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konceptual99
Yup very interested to see letter, kit list etc.
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2014 AGM announcement rumour
by yadda yadda 2 infrom barbara anderson, former watchtower headquarters researcher and writer, on another recent thread:.
it is expected that at the 2014 annual meeting, usually held the first saturday in october, will serve watchtower leaders well to cover-up all the 100-years of prophetic nonsense.
rumor has it they are going to celebrate their 100-years of announcing the kingdom in an adroit way by featuring a move of "great" significance to do with the expansion of the governing body to an "apostolic" 12 or some other fantasy idea.. .
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Billy's back! Whoop whoop!
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Aren't Watchtower literature trolleys and stands illegal?
by jwfacts inin many places it is illegal to set up a stand and sell things in public without council approval.
so why is it that jws can set up their trolleys in busy public areas without being asked to move on?
i saw this article this morning about muslims being asked to stop handing out leaflets in parramatta, because it is illegal.
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konceptual99
In the UK they get permission.