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  I was impressed by part of today's symposium entitled ' Safeguard your children from what is evil'

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  well i have to give credit where credit is due.

  it was the part of today's symposium - build a house that will endure.

  the part i was most impressed with was 'safeguard your children from "what is evil".

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  konceptual99

  Whilst it was a good reminder to parents it was clearly a cynical attempt to put a smoke screen up and enable claims to the authorities that the WTS does not shy away from advising parents on the matter.

  What they failed to do was mention anything about congregation procedure or what responsibility and proactive action to support or initiate the reporting of allegations to the authorities the elders will take.

  They failed to detail what the child protection policies are in the congregation.

  They failed to explain the limitations in congregational situations that parents should take notice of.

  They had a perfect opportunity to explain where things had gone wrong before, apologise and detail what has changed to prevent future problems.

  But they didn't.

  Parents must be the ones to protect their kids. They cannot do it in an environment where they feel they must defer to WTS rules and hierarchy. The WTS must also recognise it cannot avoid it's place in protecting children whose parents are complicit in abuse.

  The talk was ultimately fluff and avoided any mention of the part the organisation has to play.

  Shame on them.
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  Question for those who went to the RC

  by joe134cd in

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  i'm just curious with all the happy clapping that is now going on with the singing at the conventions.

  what has been the reaction to it with the r&f.

  has anyone ever commented that it reminded them of a pentecostal revival meeting.

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  konceptual99

  I do note that the latest WT has an article on singing which is pretty much the same content as every other time that they have trotted it out.

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-november-2017/singing-essential-part-of-true-worship/

  It makes no mention of clapping but does mention that the use of screens enables the song to be sung out.

  For the time being at least clapping in time to the songs does not seem to be something that the GB wish to encourage at congregational level.

  Perhaps some of us who still have to attend should try it and see if it catches on...
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  Dunkirk.

  by zeb in

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  i have just seen the film "dunkirk".

  do yourselves a big favour and go see it.

  (not for kids).

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  Just seen it. Brilliant film which brought tears to my eyes. It might not be as close to the real events as possible but it tells the story in a really evocative manner.

  The only thing which bugged me was the internal shots in the rail carriage. Those open plan carriages simply were not around in the 40s AFAIK. Even into the late 80s compartmentalised carriages were the norm.
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  What in the flying F....????

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  https://www.facebook.com/tupuebloesmipueblojehova/videos/578539175868967/?hc_ref=arrvbqq6myd5outlusr6zufmvffwsvr_duxl_fdriuhhniiuesiylhi43gybtziknxwthis video gave me cancer..

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  konceptual99

  We need an Onion headline in the manner of...

  
  

  and...

  
  
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  Happy birthday Watchtower!

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just before the month ends i would like to congratulate the watchtower magazine for completing its run of 138 years of publication.

  the first copy was printed july 1st 1879. well done watchtower!.

  as a reminder, let people remember that in its time this magazine has one of the world’s largest print runs for a periodical.

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  Interesting that I recall a certain fanfare being associated with anniversaries of the WT publication. I don't see any fanfare for this 138th anniversary let alone build up to the 140th. It's almost as if they don't want people to think about the length of time associated with the heralding of the Kingdom.

  I think they only made a meal of 2014 just to try and pour water on apostates laughing at them.
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  JW Parents and kicking out their children

  by NJ501 in

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  is it a common practice for jw parents to kick their children out of the home, if the child doesn't want to be a jw.

  (even though their not disfellowshipped they will still get kicked out for not going to meetings etc.??).

  do other religions encourage kicking family members out this as well?

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  konceptual99

  Depends on the parents and the behaviour of the kid.

  In my experience it's not common for a child to be kicked out unless the relationship has really broken down to a large degree. Where I have seen it I have to say that the child has often been behaving really badly but I am sure this is not always the case since much depends on the attitude of the parents.

  Sure, religious differences and having a DFed child does cause conflict and family disruption but I think it would be stretching things to suggest that children are summarily thrown out of the family home for relatively trivial things or simply for saying they don't wish to attend meetings any more. It can and does happen but is not the norm in my experience - usually the opposite. It's not until a child is DFed that their living arrangements are called into question.
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  DNA analysis establishes modern-day Lebanese to be ancient Canaanites

  by jwleaks in

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  wcontinuity and admixture in the last five millennia of levantine history from ancient canaanite and present-day lebanese genome sequences.

  the american journal of human genetics .

  july 27, 2017. summary.

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  konceptual99

  Can't wait for this to be in whatever the current version of "Watching the World" is.
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  The craziness of Christianity

  by Normalfulla in

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  so i was reading thru a fb feed about poor chester bennington and in relation chris cornell, there were some rather heated and unusual (or usual whatever you may think ) comments... no disrespect to believers but since leaving the jws i just see this type of discussion as lunacy.

  ... "chester is going to hell ,he killed himself so it's black and white in god's word ."..

  "why would a loving god send a person who suffers from mental illness to hell?

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  Second point. Even if medical science is wrong and she was actually dead, how does she know the guy opposite her husband was Jesus? It could've been Muhammad, Thor, Baphomet or some other undiscovered deity.

  Because her mind would have shown Jesus looking exactly like how she has been conditioned to think Jesus looks. A Muslim would see Muhammed, a Buddhist would see a typical image of Buddha and so on.

  The mind is an incredible echo chamber of confirmation bias.
  
  
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  Question for those who went to the RC

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm just curious with all the happy clapping that is now going on with the singing at the conventions.

  what has been the reaction to it with the r&f.

  has anyone ever commented that it reminded them of a pentecostal revival meeting.

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  konceptual99

  Fortunately didn't happen at the Brighton UK convention but given the increasingly emotionally based atmosphere at conventions I am not surprised and don't think most Witnesses would have a problem with. When it happens at a normal KH meeting is when a real sea change will have occurred.
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  They lied about methuselah tree at convention

  by hoser in

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  there was a part about pine trees in california mountains at regional convention.

  the brother/organization lied about how old they are.

  he said oldest tree is 4200 years old when it is actually 5000 years old.

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  konceptual99

  They mentioned something about this in the talk at Brighton as they said something like 4600 or 4700 years old as I whispered to my wife that that was interesting considering the flood was about 4400 years ago and would have destroyed all the trees.