I can say with 100% conviction that if there were not life changing family and social consequences to just saying I don't believe it any more then I would have left 3 years ago.
konceptual99
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All shunning soon to end
by poopie inthis is just a first step clapping.
it's like the fed one quarter bases point at a time.
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The wt has now changed Jesus definition of neighboor
by poopie inthe man asked jesus who is my neighbor jesus stated the one who acts mercifully toward other humans.
not good enough for watchtower neighbor must fit in three catagories only according to yesterdays wt wow changed the words of the son of god.
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konceptual99
Lanalonger,
Regardless of any argument over the what the actual scope of "neighbour" is, the article reflects the age old position of the WTS that passes off the ministry as the only charitable works with any real worth.
I know that there are many cases of individuals helping out their literal neighbours and strangers in practical ways. I know the WTS sends relief packages and personnel into disaster zones. I would even concede that for some, implementing the moral values in the Bible may help them become better citizens than they have been in the past.
What cannot be denied however is that very few Witnesses give up any time regularly in practical charitable works or in regular fund raising. The WTS itself does not operate any ongoing aid and support missions in war torn or poverty stricken areas. Their aid is concerned with believers first and foremost. There are well documented cases of them applying pressure to those they have helped to contribute insurance payments to the organisation.
If left to the WTS there would be no doctors and nurses looking after victims of war in Syria, no ongoing programmes in Africa to provide clean water supplies, no initiatives to improve sanitation in poverty stricken areas around the world, no homes for battered women and children, no soup kitchens for the homeless in cities across the world and so on.
I spent years agreeing with the WT position on this, justifying and defending the view that all of the above is just sticking plaster. As I woke up to the lies the WTS have been peddling for generations then I was also forced to examine my attitude to charity and working for the benefit of others. The more and more I considered it then the more I have come to have nothing but utter contempt for the attitude of the WTS.
Articles like Sunday's are nothing but hypocritical and disingenuous. The WTS refuse to engage with the wider charitable community. The WTS refuse to promote even some middle ground of a ministry coupled with unilateral charitable works. The WTS only acknowledge hours peddling literature as works worthy of a Christian. Simple works of humanity are not given anywhere near the same import nor are members encouraged to spend time engaged in them.
You can argue semantics about the meaning of neighbour in the magazine from Sunday but don't even start to tell me that the drones I see regularly standing for hours in central London holding out WT & Awake magazines in front of impotent carts to ZERO response are somehow doing the most important charitable work in the whole fecking universe.
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The wt has now changed Jesus definition of neighboor
by poopie inthe man asked jesus who is my neighbor jesus stated the one who acts mercifully toward other humans.
not good enough for watchtower neighbor must fit in three catagories only according to yesterdays wt wow changed the words of the son of god.
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konceptual99
"I was fuming during that meeting yesterday."
Solution: Stop going.Yup - working on that one.
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konceptual99
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Never knew the fact about beetles....
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Do JW get counseled for buying a home?
by thedepressedsoul ini was curious, i couldn't find much on it.
if anything, there are a few articles that give advice on how to properly buy a home, mortgage, good location etc... .
do you know if the elders can counsel on this matter or remove privileges over it?
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konceptual99
An individual may have a view but the WTS has no view other than doing what you can to "keep your eye simple" which might include unwisely getting into debt. -
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The wt has now changed Jesus definition of neighboor
by poopie inthe man asked jesus who is my neighbor jesus stated the one who acts mercifully toward other humans.
not good enough for watchtower neighbor must fit in three catagories only according to yesterdays wt wow changed the words of the son of god.
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konceptual99
It's not a "beautiful teaching". It's yet another pseudo intellectual bastardisation of a very simple principle designed to support the Witnesses view that activities like standing for hours like lemons by a cart is somehow more worthy than actually going out and bloody well helping people.
I was fuming during that meeting yesterday.
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The wt has now changed Jesus definition of neighboor
by poopie inthe man asked jesus who is my neighbor jesus stated the one who acts mercifully toward other humans.
not good enough for watchtower neighbor must fit in three catagories only according to yesterdays wt wow changed the words of the son of god.
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konceptual99
The point is there are at least 1 billion people, maybe double or treble, unlikely to be met in the ministry. Are they my neighbour?
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The wt has now changed Jesus definition of neighboor
by poopie inthe man asked jesus who is my neighbor jesus stated the one who acts mercifully toward other humans.
not good enough for watchtower neighbor must fit in three catagories only according to yesterdays wt wow changed the words of the son of god.
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konceptual99
What about people that are highly unlikely to be met in the ministry like those caught in the war in Syria? Is it neighbourly to support charities that are sending doctors and nurses to help them for example? -
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No more pain sorrow or crying in new system!!!!!!!
by atomant in"and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain.
for the old world and its evils are gone forever.
" rev.
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konceptual99
So what about our tear ducts?
If you argue that they were created in case of anything getting in the eyes etc. then where did the link to emotion come? That would have been created in Adam and he would have been capable of crying through sadness. Why?
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Honeymoon over for the carts
by Deltawave inspeaking with inlaws i another congregation today who said exactly what is being said in our own hall.
the trolly work is long and boring and no one even notices they are there anymore but walk right on by.
jehovah really is speeding up the work lol.
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konceptual99
I think they are following a strategy of introducing change to try and keep people motivated. The carts, reduced pioneer hours, special campaigns and now the changes to reporting to make pretty much anything count simply paper over the cracks but are enough of a veneer to keep people chugging along, especially in areas where growth is negligible.
For areas where there is still greater growth then all the above methods are fine as well but if people are more open to a Bible study and less willing or capable of questioning what they are learning then the added benefit is that the publishers feel motivated simply because people seem interested.