Posts by konceptual99

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First thoughts on "new" meeting...

by konceptual99 in

had a quick look at the workbook and flicked through the sample meeting video.. the increased use of video shows the trend for more centralised dissemination of "best practice" .

sure there isn't really a "school" any more and the format is a bit different but i think those that called it as the same old crap just in new package got it pretty much right.

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konceptual99

I wonder how the second/third school will work?

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First thoughts on "new" meeting...

by konceptual99 in

had a quick look at the workbook and flicked through the sample meeting video.. the increased use of video shows the trend for more centralised dissemination of "best practice" .

sure there isn't really a "school" any more and the format is a bit different but i think those that called it as the same old crap just in new package got it pretty much right.

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First thoughts on "new" meeting...

by konceptual99 in

had a quick look at the workbook and flicked through the sample meeting video.. the increased use of video shows the trend for more centralised dissemination of "best practice" .

sure there isn't really a "school" any more and the format is a bit different but i think those that called it as the same old crap just in new package got it pretty much right.

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konceptual99

Mmmmm. Looks like we could all be wrong....

The video still featured the Benefit book and there is a new speech counsel slip. Image to come....

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First thoughts on "new" meeting...

by konceptual99 in

had a quick look at the workbook and flicked through the sample meeting video.. the increased use of video shows the trend for more centralised dissemination of "best practice" .

sure there isn't really a "school" any more and the format is a bit different but i think those that called it as the same old crap just in new package got it pretty much right.

.

konceptual99

Had a quick look at the workbook and flicked through the sample meeting video.

The increased use of video shows the trend for more centralised dissemination of "best practice" . Sure there isn't really a "school" any more and the format is a bit different but I think those that called it as the same old crap just in new package got it pretty much right.

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Has anyone thought of the spin that the "society" will put on bethel layoffs?

by Lied2NoMore in

first, how about a joke?.

what do you call someone who just turned apostate?.

im thinking sometime in the future the society will put a spin on what is happening similar to what has been done in the past.. they will say apostasy once again reared its ugly head in the organization and layoffs was the only way to "cleanse" the organization.. once disgruntled ones begin to use their voice, they will be forced to strike back with some spin to make all those who have the guts to complain look like they were the problem.. good theory huh?.

konceptual99

It's already happening. Ones I speak with, things I see on pro-JW forums...

Many have completely discounted what has changed since the 20's, 40's, 60's - right up to the past 5 years. They simply say it only matters what is said now. Who cares about old publications? The other favourite one is "don't worry about the details, just ask yourself about the fundamentals - does God exist? Does he care? Is he going to do something?"

It's still the minority that are in the right place to ask themselves those questions and answer honestly. Few will really do anything other than answer a blind "yes" to each of the above questions.

There is plenty of covering the cracks of disillusionment with the wallpaper of cognitive dissonance going on now and it's just going to carry on.

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More rumors, 500 families laid off from South African bethel.

by bohm in

from a recent reddit thread:.

i just received confirmation from a very trusted source in south africa bethel that up to 500 "families" (i imagine couples or singles) are getting let go from that branch.. also confirmed is the special pioneer cull.. what really strikes me about the layoffs is that the south african bethel provides literature and other needs for most of africa, a huge growth area for the org.. .

link:.

konceptual99

The build out there was progressing fast. I have an acquaintance who was there for several weeks working on the project and recently (about 6 weeks ago) came back to the UK.

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Has anyone thought of the spin that the "society" will put on bethel layoffs?

by Lied2NoMore in

first, how about a joke?.

what do you call someone who just turned apostate?.

im thinking sometime in the future the society will put a spin on what is happening similar to what has been done in the past.. they will say apostasy once again reared its ugly head in the organization and layoffs was the only way to "cleanse" the organization.. once disgruntled ones begin to use their voice, they will be forced to strike back with some spin to make all those who have the guts to complain look like they were the problem.. good theory huh?.

konceptual99

JWTalk is down playing the layoffs and raising the speculation about the nearness of the end essentially. Comments basically reflect one or more of the following themes:

- Jehovah is guiding the org

- This is obviously what he wants

- Jehovah has never anyone faithful down

- Bethelites are capable people and will find work for for their new assignments no problem

- The work is speeding up

- The chariot is warp factor 10 Mr. Sulu

- Stop worrying. Stop complaining. Sit down. Shut the **** up

- It OK to get a little about aroused about Armageddon

Sure - I made the last one up but it's fair to say that chucking out hundreds of people who expected a full time career in catered care is actually generating excitement.

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jw deny rumours moving UK HQ to Chelmsford project has collaspe

by Aleph in

http://www.essexchronicle.co.uk/jehovah-s-witnesses-deny-rumours-uk-headquarters/story-27899763-detail/story.html.

t. .

konceptual99

They are both in active use and one produces literature and sells it to the other for distribution but I cannot remember which way round it is.

WTBTSB Accounts 2014....

Income...

Producing and distributing Bible literature 8,759,227

http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends61/0001077961_AC_20140831_E_C.pdf

IBSA Accounts 2014....

Expenses....

Provision of literature for Bible education 8,820,956

http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends47/0000216647_AC_20140831_E_C.pdf

WTBTSB sells the literature to the IBSA.

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It's easy to gloat about WTS problems ...

by Simon in

jw
friends

.. and fun too !

:d. what?

were you expecting a "but"?

konceptual99

but........

we are still a long way off (IMHO) from this ridiculous debacle accelerating the drip drip drip of defectors from da troof to a waterfall of people simply saying "feck this shambles".

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Template to dump Special Pioneers

by avaddohn94 in

"downsizing" has reached special pioneers.. this is the template mexico is using to get rid of many of its special pioneers.

see how cold and unloving is the language they use.

a translation attempt is as follows:.

konceptual99

I really don't think that the WTS is in any real danger of going broke in the short term.

I agree with the sentiments that this is all about rapid organisation change to protect against future shortfall and risks. These risks may include changes to tax status, compensation claims, reduced investment income, rising construction costs etc.

What is clear to me is that the decision making has absolutely nothing to do with spiritual goals. It is completely driven by bean counters. I really get the impression that the GB have let their hubris get the better of them and run amok with this plan and that plan over the past couple of years then some underling has pulled their bollocks out of their arse and given them some plain and simple shocking facts, coupled with some compelling strategies for rapid and persistent cost cutting.

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