@curiousconfused - we may not directly know each other but if you are in that part of the world then we will almost certainly share some common connections.
konceptual99
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ex-jw-uk
by bigmac ini'm quite new to this site, & have realised some members have a union jack symbol under their avatar.
i don't.. could we have a "show of hands" from any uk members?
i've already found several by reading older posts..
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News Which UK J.W.'s Won't Get in their Kigdom Ministry!
by The Searcher ina source tells me the following: .
for shropshire uk by the name of anthony manning has been removed and judicially reproved.
portishead congregation in north somerset is being merged or disbanded on sept 1st 2015 due to "aging elders, poor attendance, decrepit kingdom hall and landslip" - of course the suspicion is wt just wants to sell the hall off.
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Court seizes over one million Jehovah's Witnesses brochures brought into Russia
by StarTrekAngel inhttp://red.theworldnewsmedia.org/index.php/en/forum-home-page/jehovah-s-witnesses/93-court-seizes-over-one-million-jehovah-s-witnesses-brochures-brought-into-russia
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konceptual99
There are two points here. One is about the rights around freedom of religion and expression versus the potentially greater priority of preventing people from needlessly being caught in a high control organisation.
The second is about the motivation of the Russian authorities.
I don't believe they have a clear, moral and reasonable argument as to why they wish to prevent WT publications from being distributed. They simply don't like it and are cracking down, just as they prevent members of the LGBT communities from driving for having a "mental illness" and just as they imply state acceptance of many forms of prejudice rather than encouraging an open and tolerant society. Russia, at a state level, is culturally backward and pretty crappy place to be if you don't confirm to the norms.
Just because the state might be doing something with some benefits as far as the distribution of WTS material is concerned it does not mean we should be patting this racist, homophobic and oppressive regime on the back.
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News Which UK J.W.'s Won't Get in their Kigdom Ministry!
by The Searcher ina source tells me the following: .
for shropshire uk by the name of anthony manning has been removed and judicially reproved.
portishead congregation in north somerset is being merged or disbanded on sept 1st 2015 due to "aging elders, poor attendance, decrepit kingdom hall and landslip" - of course the suspicion is wt just wants to sell the hall off.
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And finally... in the past few months there have been several dismissals from the Mill Hill Bethel family for homosexuality. This is directly from a current serving Bethelite.
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News Which UK J.W.'s Won't Get in their Kigdom Ministry!
by The Searcher ina source tells me the following: .
for shropshire uk by the name of anthony manning has been removed and judicially reproved.
portishead congregation in north somerset is being merged or disbanded on sept 1st 2015 due to "aging elders, poor attendance, decrepit kingdom hall and landslip" - of course the suspicion is wt just wants to sell the hall off.
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Also, I hear unconfirmed rumours of a congregation in southeast England where several elders were removed and, along with their wives, subjected to judicial committees after instances of swinging. Has anyone else heard this or is it complete rubbish. -
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News Which UK J.W.'s Won't Get in their Kigdom Ministry!
by The Searcher ina source tells me the following: .
for shropshire uk by the name of anthony manning has been removed and judicially reproved.
portishead congregation in north somerset is being merged or disbanded on sept 1st 2015 due to "aging elders, poor attendance, decrepit kingdom hall and landslip" - of course the suspicion is wt just wants to sell the hall off.
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Small update. I understand from those closer to the situation than I that Clevedon hall has been closed. It will be sold off and probably revert to a residential property. The members of the congregations are moving to other halls. JW.ORG already reflects this.
So, just a relatively short while before the RBC/LDC change over, the proposed build in Clevedon gets shelved on the orders of the RBC (as I understand). The congregations are left in a building no longer fit for purpose. They then send the society all their funds saved towards a new hall when the org changes it's build funding policy. The society then tells them that they have to move to other halls, sell the current one and pass on the monies to the society. You now have members having to travel significantly larger distances after handing over donations saved for their OWN hall, topped off by giving away a small fortune from their imminent hall sale.
This property. even in it's current state, must be worth several hundreds of thousands of pounds. What. A. Scam.
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Why Jehovah Does Not Want An Effective Preaching Work
by konceptual99 inso we all know how ineffectual the preaching work really is.
we also know how much the wts hypes up the scope and scale of the global preaching effort.
what the gb should be doing however is emphasising the ineffectiveness of the preaching work.
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On a forum filled with some truly wonderful threads with posts from members with far more significant credentials as exposers of WT junk than myself, your comment is very humbly received CL. -
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Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body is the "faithful slave"?
by Marvin Shilmer inthis question is known to be posed by jws to other jws as an acid test of loyalty.
i'm not the first to notice what i'm about to point out and comment accordingly, but today i felt compelled to add a short article on my blog highlighting the new language that governing body member geoffrey jackson supplies as a response.
a person who honestly hesitates to respond with a robust "yes!
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This was an interesting passage of questioning.
AS used the word "disciples" in the sense of a small, select band of chosen ones. He should have said something along the lines of "modern day equivalent of the 12 apostles". GJ picked up on this right away and came back with a generalism based around a wider sense of the word and that every Christian is seeking to be a disciple.
This then meant that further questioning were not specific enough to force GJ into a binary response about the status of the GB as the one and only spokesperson that Witnesses must follow.
I thought AS had missed a trick here but the wishy washy nature of the documented responses by GJ actually allow responses to the loyalty question such as the one proposed by problemaddict2.
I know the whole thing is preposterous but when trying to avoid being done up like a kipper by elders then theocratic warfare goes both ways...
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So I was enjoying a business trip in down town Bangkok...............Next thing BANG!!!
by cantleave inso last night i was having a wonderful meal in a very nice restaurant when we heard what we thought was a loud clap of thunder.................. it was a bomb.
yards from my hotel.
thankfully i made a few decision that meant i wasn't in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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konceptual99
After seeing the pictures from the scene I am very pleased you are safe and sound CL. Shocking to be so close to such a terrible event.
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News Which UK J.W.'s Won't Get in their Kigdom Ministry!
by The Searcher ina source tells me the following: .
for shropshire uk by the name of anthony manning has been removed and judicially reproved.
portishead congregation in north somerset is being merged or disbanded on sept 1st 2015 due to "aging elders, poor attendance, decrepit kingdom hall and landslip" - of course the suspicion is wt just wants to sell the hall off.
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Portishead shares a hall with Cleavdon, in Cleavdon. It is a small congregation, very old. There is pretty much only one elder with a young(ish) family. They live in Cleavdon and moved over to the Portishead congregation so he could be appointed. It's a very tedious congregation.
The hall is in an old house that I believe is listed. It needs loads of work, even so would be worth a packet of converted back to a residential building. https://goo.gl/maps/au60F
Everyone wants to find a new hall and even were about to move on some land until the RBC said no and then put everything on hold.
The hall was also home to the notorious Michael Porter, the abuser who went to Bethel.