I was hoping you'd be there. Even though we don't know each other it's good to know there will be at least one other person from on here sharing the "fun" with me.
konceptual99
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Brighton Convention Roll Call
by konceptual99 inanyone here attending the brighton rc this weekend?
hope it's my last....
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Brighton Convention Roll Call
by konceptual99 inanyone here attending the brighton rc this weekend?
hope it's my last....
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konceptual99
Anyone here attending the Brighton RC this weekend? Hope it's my last...
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Huge story unfolding at Warwick
by Crazyguy inits been mentioned before that warwick is a toxic dump and now the jw's are suing a former owner for compensation.
well this is huge on so many levels.
one they new it was contaminated back a few years ago so why move your headquarters there?
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konceptual99
The Chelmsford site is contaminated in places but it was all known about before hand and there a numerous ways of cleaning it up. The interesting thing is that putting a planning application in for a scrap heap does ease the process somewhat as the locals and the council are glad to have anything there but a dump.
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Thinking of Going Full Disclosure With Wife. Sorta
by freemindfade insoliciting any and all opinions.
as some of you may know, wife is full in pioneer.
my fade has gone from us fighting.
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konceptual99
I am planning on doing the same. I am working out what and how I will say it. I have concluded that there is nothing I can do to prevent her feeling hurt and anxious but I can't go on with her not asking the question and me not offering the answer.
I certainly don't want to force her and my family into a position that makes the whole social fabric of our lives crumble overnight but the facade has to come down at some point and it is better that I have some control over that rather than have that whipped out of my hands through other events.
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Huge story unfolding at Warwick
by Crazyguy inits been mentioned before that warwick is a toxic dump and now the jw's are suing a former owner for compensation.
well this is huge on so many levels.
one they new it was contaminated back a few years ago so why move your headquarters there?
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konceptual99
The difference is that WT has a free lawyer pool at their beck and call.
Makes a huge difference in your litigation (and response) strategy.Is it free?
Sure,they have the internal legal department and staff representative of every level of the law profession but AFAIK they employ external legal firms, especially when engaged in the highly commercial nature of large property deals.
I get the point that if the cost of a legal process is low then starting proceedings is perhaps a more straight-forward commercial decision but I don't think there would be many large corporates who would be afraid of pushing forward with this litigation given the information available so far. Don't forget as well that they will also be paying for lots of reports to be produced by specialists. The legal element in preparing the ligation is only part of the work and costs required.
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Just a short observation on self inflicted misery.
by Human Being ini used to post on this site a few years back but after moving on personally and being shunned by my only remaining family member for the last 4-5 years i the j.w's became just background noise to me.
yet yesterday something happened that brought back to me the degree of control this cult has over it's members.
a new wall mart recently opened in my little mountain town here in northern georgia, u.s. as i headed across the parking lot on my way into the store the heat was intense, wit a humidity factor of around 90%.
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konceptual99
Witnesses are an irrelevance to most people. Those of us here will have our opinions about the relative dangers of being inside the organisation but to the overwhelming majority of people who have no links to Witnesses then door knocking and carts mean zero, absolutely nothing.
Laws that give us all freedoms in the West also allow JWs to go about their business. Ensuring the facts, advice and experiences of those who have escaped from the organisation are as widely available as possible is the best way of helping ones that may be curious.
Let them do their carts and their public ministry. Who really cares? Virtually no one. Far better, IMHO, to try and find ways of getting those that are in to engage with sites and information that will make them question their beliefs.
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Huge story unfolding at Warwick
by Crazyguy inits been mentioned before that warwick is a toxic dump and now the jw's are suing a former owner for compensation.
well this is huge on so many levels.
one they new it was contaminated back a few years ago so why move your headquarters there?
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konceptual99
The WTS is not badly advised when it comes to commercial and legal matters. They know exactly what they are doing and pay a lot of money to very good lawyers, engineers, architects and construction specialists.
I cannot believe the WTS did not know that land they purchased was contaminated. There may be arguments about the extent of the problem or around the scope of some kind of prior disclosure but the WTS is very good at arguing the toss over details like this and winning.
IMHO no JW is going to wake up to TTATT on the basis that Jehovah should have warned them, I don't think it's much of a scandal or a cover up. Things like this happen all the time in large scale property development. I wouldn't expect any other multi-million dollar global corporate to act any differently.
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The new Governing Body is liberal. they are really freeminders!
by rege brazzy indear friends, your posts are very good, but we really think that they will change many things soon...for example.
watch tower now are feminist and they protect the gay cause.soon we will have many gay marriages in kingdom halls.you will see.that governing body is really cool.ted jaracz and john barr were the last puritans in the governing body!.
the current governing body is completely liberal, but as yet has some bethelites the old guard working, they are still holding some behaviors .... but very soon you will see ... even in my congregation is very liberal ... not here disassociates for immorality .. just for apostasy ... i fucked three sister, but the elders did not shunned me, but they only help me!
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Questions to ask after July broadcast
by scooterspank injust wondering what questions you might ask an active jw following the july broadcast and the 10 minutes addressing child sex abuse?
or is it even worth the trouble.
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konceptual99
You might as well bang your head on a brick wall.
The majority of the rhetoric on that other site is along the lines of:
- the elders are not the police
- even the courts need two witnesses
- the parents should be disfellowshipped (or more) for not reporting and leaving their kids with others... "they should serve time for neglect and pay a stiff fine as well. I'm so disgusted." or "Why is the organisation held guiltier (more responsible) than the parents in such cases?"
- people are stupid for not reporting
- this is a subject being manipulated by apostates
etc... etc... etc...
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Should I hit send button as is? Change? Or just hit delete?
by Lied2NoMore inso after being deleted because of my comment on her instagram post by my sister-in-law i got a text from her stating she didn't want a debate on instagram and the scripture i posted would not apply to satan, they are worried about me, go see elders, return to jehovah, or else you won't get life, etc etc.... i'm ready to respond with the following reply:.
so....hit send?
make changes?
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konceptual99
Got to agree with mille210. Anything that makes you sound angry and bitter will likely simply be tossed aside and reinforce the position your sister has taken that she has some righteous justification for writing you off.
I think you make a great point about her never saying anything to anyone on the doors about "do this or you will die". If you were to send anything then I would concentrate on this point, keep it simple, non-aggressive and appeal to her heart. Why should she write you off so quickly? What was Jesus track record with those who had doubts? It does not matter if you believe in Jesus or not, you simply are trying to stop her bedding herself into some kind of entrenched position of self-righteousness.