Posts by konceptual99

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Letter to BOE: Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants

by pixel in

hello, you read it here first!.

governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

to all congregations.

konceptual99

As I see it there is little change on a day to day basis in most congregations, especially when it comes to recomendations for appointment. The CO will still be looking for some prompting on recommendations from the elders. The CO always had the power to stonewall an appointment. Where it is interesting is on a deletion. The CO could effectively prevent a deletion by not approving it. Now however, one would presume that he can recommand a deletion where the body have not proposed such an action. Hey presto, any people not percieved as company men get the heave ho. The CO can also more easily overrule any situation where he sees the body closing ranks on someone and protecting them.

I agree with the comments on the further erosion of powers from the local congregation but the real power has always rested outside - this is just a formalisation of what was already the reality.

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this weekend's "SPECIAL TALK"....

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, so as most know, this is the weekend of the "special talk" .... if anyone is going to the k hall, please shaer your thoughts on what makes is "so special".... i bet it will be more recycled same same.... "god loves you, he hates violence, he hates bad things happening to good people, he wants you all to be jw memebers...or he will kill you all at the big loving armageddon!!!!!!!

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konceptual99

The only thing "special" about the talk I will be at tomorrow is the mental capacity of the elder presenting it.

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Is it okay for JW to take Medical Marijuana?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

just wondering.

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konceptual99

There is also a difference in the make up of medical MJ than the sort you would find on the street, especially if you are talking about the stronger stuff that is around these days. You would not be allowed to smoke it however.

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Artificial Blood vs. Artificial Cigarettes (e-cigarettes)

by RubaDub in

disclaimer: this is a rub a dub serious comment (i can only do the serious stuff every so often when i haven't had enough fiber in my diet).. i was in a group with several brothers after the sunday meeting and brought up the new information about the artificial blood.

only one had heard of it but most thought it was a good idea.. i then mentioned that i guess the new e-cigarettes are a good idea too.

one mentioned that we don't smoke.

konceptual99

It could be argued that an e-cig is not a fake or artifical cigarette, it's just a different method of delivery of nicotine. OK, it contains significantly less toxic elements than a traditional tobacco cigarette but assuming it not just a perfumed vapour then it still contains nicotine which is an addictive substance.

Of course the comparision with other potentially harmful activities such as drinking is a valid one. It's also valid to question the logic of a prohibition on smoking e-cigarettes compared with the disingenuous stance on blood. That will never change the skewed logic of any one who is "in".

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The Governing Body told two Elders to call !!!!

by Phizzy in

a friend from the other end of the country just 'phoned and told me that a couple of days ago two elders knocked on his door.

he has been out for four or more years.. they told him it was c.o's visit, and the governing body have asked them to call on those whom they no longer see at the k.hall.. i guess this is an easier "field" than knocking on doors that never open, or where they are told "not interested".. my friend bill though, was not such an easy call.

apparently he managed to get in about 1914 being rubbish, the bible not being the word of god, because we cannot trust it, 1919 being rubbish as to the choosing of the fds and several other telling points.. i liked particularly that he said to them they were rather hypocritical asking householders to examine their faith, when jw's were simply not allowed to !.

konceptual99

If they do I will lie and keep them at the door and tell them I will be coming back "soon".

It's no lie, it's just like Armageddon is coming soon!

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The Governing Body told two Elders to call !!!!

by Phizzy in

a friend from the other end of the country just 'phoned and told me that a couple of days ago two elders knocked on his door.

he has been out for four or more years.. they told him it was c.o's visit, and the governing body have asked them to call on those whom they no longer see at the k.hall.. i guess this is an easier "field" than knocking on doors that never open, or where they are told "not interested".. my friend bill though, was not such an easy call.

apparently he managed to get in about 1914 being rubbish, the bible not being the word of god, because we cannot trust it, 1919 being rubbish as to the choosing of the fds and several other telling points.. i liked particularly that he said to them they were rather hypocritical asking householders to examine their faith, when jw's were simply not allowed to !.

konceptual99

I suspect the GB see it as a win-win for the society.

Every salesman knows that your existing customer base are the first ones to go to with new products. So by going back on inactive ones they may just strike a cord and get them reactivated.

On the other hand, it may also force the inactive one into expressing views that mean they can take more formal action thus isolating those that perhaps are inactive but perhaps having a negative (in their eyes) influence on family and friends.

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One step closer to a possible JW blood transfusion solution

by sir82 in

see the article here:.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/04/18/the_wellcome_trust_is_funding_research_to_make_human_blood_from_stem_cells.html.

blood could become much less scarce if a british research group succeeds in bringing a version made from stem cells to human trials, and eventually to market.

konceptual99

I can see your point NoApologies and I would agree there is no simmering rebellion about blood in the ranks. What there is however is an institutional inability to just drop certain doctrines. The irony is that they can change things like the generations over and over again, modify the F&DS etc. yet cannot bring themselves to bring some sense to the table on blood, birthdays and so on.

I do think that the hubris and pride in the upper echelons of the organisation prevents them moving unless reality forces an issue. I am still of the opinion that the potential legal risks also play a part in the reluctuance to simply drop the blood restriction but can see an argument on why there could be alternative views on the impact of this on their intransigence.

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One step closer to a possible JW blood transfusion solution

by sir82 in

see the article here:.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/04/18/the_wellcome_trust_is_funding_research_to_make_human_blood_from_stem_cells.html.

blood could become much less scarce if a british research group succeeds in bringing a version made from stem cells to human trials, and eventually to market.

konceptual99

Hi talesin,

I certainly accept your first hand experience of this. Vidiot's link is also interesting reading. I guess the one thing we can agree on is that the society will continue to allow as many things as possible on a conscience basis without ever officially stopping the no blood rule.

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Upcoming Regional Conventions - GB talks & GB Helper talks

by OwnAccord in

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photo from jw talk.

konceptual99

tied-in... the talk is given live in one place and relayed to screens in other locations.

It used to be just audio. Now it's just like the telly with pictures and everything.

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Upcoming Regional Conventions - GB talks & GB Helper talks

by OwnAccord in

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photo from jw talk.

konceptual99

tied-in... the talk is given live in one place and relayed to screens in other locations.

It used to be just audio. Now it's just like the telly with pictures and everything.