jehovah's witnesses:.
lakewood, ohio congregation of jehovah's witnesses, inc. v. city of lakewood, 699 f.2d 303 (6th cir.
galfas v. city of atlanta, 193 f.2d 931 (5th cir.
Yeah,
I'm willing to bet that almost all of these regard zoning cases for new KH or assembly halls.
I'm not sure how it works where you're at kent but here the local congregation will try and sell a piece of land but will want to re-zone it from, let's say, a church to business or light industry. This way it's easier to sell. The local zoning board will sometimes deny this request and the seller can sue and force re-zoning. Kind of works the same way when buying. Just my guess though.
ok so i was breakdancing at this event called in the streets in frederick maryland, if you want to see pics go to my website www.bboyneko.com and go to the events section.
.. http://www.bboyneko.com.
anyway, its a small town we affectionatly nick named fredneck and so there are many bible-thumpers..i received a series of llittle comic book pamphlets that i loved!
Hey that Grim Reaper looks pretty cool. Bet he'd be wild at a Halloween party.
as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.
and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .
after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk
Awesome...simply awesome. Now, the questions is, can the JWs handle the truth????
i'm at a definite crossroad in my life right now and i don't know which direction to turn.. for my entire life i've been taught to believe in one thing but now i'm seeing things that i never knew where there before.
i find it very disturbing that there has been so many predictions the wts has made in the past that failed to come true.
also the bouncing back and forth on certain doctrines make me question my beliefs.. but on the other hand i can't ignore things like the fact the organization is growing while other religions are on the decline.
Leaner,
Sounds like an elder or someone else is planting these ideas back in your head or at least reminding them of you. Let me make a few points.
>>But on the other hand I can't ignore things like the fact the organization is growing while other religions are on the decline.<<
Where are the JWs growing? Third world nations where the majority of the people are not educated and cannot investigate the WT. What about in the USA, Japan and Western Europe where people are free and able to look at both sides of the issue? The WT is in decline or at the very least stagnant. Why is that?
>>JW's have learned many things about the bible that other religions don't know. Also their seems to be a certain unity and cohesiveness within the organization.<<
Well, how can any religion that at least reads the Bible be completely wrong? There are bound to be at least some truths. Heck, one can even make the same argument that Nazism united Germany and brought it out of an economic depression. Did that make it good? I know that this is an extreme example, but think about it. There is no doubt that there are good things about the WT, such as promoting good morals, but does this excuse the many teachings that are outright lies and the many lies they have ruined?
>>The preaching work is done all over the world by witnesses.<<
As you start researching more and more, you’ll be surprised by how many other churches do the same. And besides just preaching, these churches build hospitals, schools, homeless shelters, etc…etc..
>>1. The date of 1914: I read an article that brought out that Jerusalem was'nt really destroyed in 607 BCE, if thats the case then that would invalidate the Society's calculations of the 2,520 years that ended in 1914. I'm trying to find some historical documents that verify what the real date for Jerusalems destruction is.<<
That’s so easy to disprove. 99.9%, hmmm…actually 99.99999% of Bible scholars choose the date 587BCE. Heck, right here in Chicago there is an excellent Jewish library/museum on Michigan avenue. I can’t think of the name of it, but you can go there, use their library and get an unbiased opinion as to when Jerusalem fell to the Babylonians.
just a question.
what stops the boys in crooklyn from simply saying: "look, we don't know why so & so filled out this form to become a ngo.
we, the governing body didn't know about it and as soon as we did we removed outselves from association with the un.
The more I think about it, the more I think they'll do what Kent said. Just ignore it. Dam I'd like to see them try and defend it though. Put them on a JC and have them explain their actions while we sit there acting high and mighty!
just a question.
what stops the boys in crooklyn from simply saying: "look, we don't know why so & so filled out this form to become a ngo.
we, the governing body didn't know about it and as soon as we did we removed outselves from association with the un.
>>There would be regular ongoing correspondence. Must be 100's of letters on file somewhere.<<
I thought about this. First hurdle, would the UN release such documents and if they tried would the WT's army of lawyers take legal action? Two, it wouldn't be the first time that a large organization, such as the UN, didn't keep track of who didn't send in their monthly reports.
I just don't know. I really, REALLY hope that there is some major fallout on this one. Knowing some of those at Bethel, it's just hard to believe that they were this stupid. I mean, did the benefits really amount to much? Was it worth the risk? And now by suddenly withdrawing....wow, that makes them look really bad! I guess cult leaders just aren't what they use to be!
just a question.
what stops the boys in crooklyn from simply saying: "look, we don't know why so & so filled out this form to become a ngo.
we, the governing body didn't know about it and as soon as we did we removed outselves from association with the un.
Just a question. What stops the boys in Crooklyn from simply saying: "Look, we don't know why so & so filled out this form to become a NGO. We, the Governing Body didn't know about it and as soon as we did we removed outselves from association with the UN."
Just wondering what excuse everyone thinks they'll come up with.
flash - major breaking!!!!!!!.
i just talked to paul hoeffel 1:35pm - he phoned me.. okay people.
i can now confirm that the watchtower has provided a letter in writing to dpi indicating that the wts has "disassociated" themselves from dpi - ie the wts has made it offical that they have quit.. i can also confirm that the wts has been updating dpi regularily as they are suppose to over the last 10 years.. i can also can say that something is in the works that i can disclose by hopeflly tomorrow.
Great work hawk. Glad to see all of your time bare some good fruits.
poor jw kids all aver america :.
to: vermont school board members.
from: edie miller.
>>When they do it, we call it propaganda. When we do it, we call it patriotism.<<
When I think of Chinese propaganda, I think of controling or limiting what the people can think and believe. There is no room to disagree with the government's offical policies, unless you want to be shot.
Here in the USA, you can pledge alligence but still disagree with government. Big difference.
My kids are still being raised as JWs by their mother and have chosen not to say the pledge at school. They do this without any retaliation by the school. I cannot picture the same thing happening in China. Also, here in downtown Chicago, there are protestors chatting and yelling that the US is wrong in bombing the Afgans. Again, I can't picture the same thing happening in China.
poor jw kids all aver america :.
to: vermont school board members.
from: edie miller.
I wonder how many kids can abstain from reciting China's version of the pleage without being punished? Think about it before you compare the USA to China.
