In the UK the only crime the elders are encouraged to report to the authorities, in fact it is written in their procedures, is criminal vandalism committed against a kingdom hall building.
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What crime should elders report?
by kramer inso, i am trying to get my head around what the right position of elders should be when they come across crime is.. i think i get the issuess around clergy confidentiality - and how that might potentially be breached when they talk about it to other elders, let alone the police.. but if people are saying that elders - or clergy of another faith should report crime to the police when it is confessed to the, then where are the boundaries.. so if someone says they should report to police on a confessed example of child abuse, that's one thing.. how about reporting to police consensual sex between a 19year old and 15 year old - which is statutory rape in the uk.
how about criminal fraud if they come across it.
assault on a congregant?.
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Bunker Video Sparks Family Drama!
by Wasanelder Once ini guess you are guaranteed to survive the "great tribulation" if you don't be a "kevin".
my family members are doubling down on their fervor about meeting attendance.
they are having an effect on some of my wishy washy long time inactive family.
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jwleaks
I want to share with you a heart warming story about the JW Bunker video and the paradise video. In my area the RC has not yet arrived. One discerning member of the "conscious class" has gone above and beyond in trying to help his family out of the JWs. First he took the video and edited out all references to the JWs. He then book ended the two videos with very brief 2 second clips from the LDS (Later Day Saints). Then he showed to his JW family and encouraged open discussion.
According to this person his family denounced the LDS as fear-mongerers, paranoid, delusional, doomsdayers, cultists, preppers and the best of all ... "you can really see they are from their father the Devil by the propaganda portrayed in the videos."
Over the past month he has regularly chatted to his family about the videos. He has also kept a video diary and, most amazingly, recorded his family making and recording their own video commentary on the absurdity of the videos. Part of this includes the family members stating that the JWs would never "stoop this low."
I've tried and tried to get a copy of the videos but it is for him and his family only. He did tell me that he is going to record their reaction when their RC comes around.
Even if he does not get his family out I believe he will make a point. Following the RC he will resign (disassociate) himself from the JWs. He plans to write a letter and use his entire family's negative comments as his own. I am interested to see if they shun him for their own comments, including the one from his father who said "if I was in a religion that put out a disgraceful video like that I would resign immediately."
Extreme? Yes. But I got 6 members of my family out by encouraging them to report the wrongdoing of a Branch Committee member to the JWs and the governing body. I stood back and sadly watched the Watchtower lawyers go after my family to destroy them. It took a while but my family eventually realized that god is not with these people.
TISTCUIICTTADM
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Possible Military Coup in Turkey!
by cofty inif this does turn out to be the case it could have very serious implications.... turkey hovers between western freedom and democracy and an islamic hell.
europe has been bending over backwards to keep turkey on-side and promising it fast-tracked entry to the eu in return for it's cooperation in controlling mass migration from the east.. the situation is unclear at the moment but there are tanks on the streets....
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jwleaks
Wonder how the new UK foreign secretary would go offering assistance to the Turkish president.
Turkish president (to UK Prime Minister Theresa May): "Will the UK honor their commitment to bring about a stable Turkish community?"
UK Prime Minister May: "I'll have our foreign secretary issue a statement on our position."
UK Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson (reading statement): "There was young fellow from Ankara, who was a terrific wankerer. Till he sowed his wild oats, with the help of a goat but he didn't even stop to thankera."
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Sixty People Murdered in Nice Terror Attack
by cofty incrowds celebrating bastille day in nice, france have been targeted by a terrorist driving a truck.. initial reports of 60 dead and 100 injured.. i am losing track of how many similar attacks there have been in europe in recently..
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jwleaks
It's now 80 people dead plus the terrorist. That's 80 people too many. So sad, especially the children. God I hate religion for all the child sacrifices.
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Kids continue to leave in droves - so what is the organization's grand plan? This
by sir82 injws have one of the worst, if not the worst, retention rates among their kids.
i've seen numbers from 65% to 88% who leave, never to return.. you'd think this would be a priority amongst the leadership, right?
where do tomorrow's leaders come from, if the vast majority of kids leave the organization?
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jwleaks
What do JW children really think of the JW religion? A few years back I was having dinner with a JW family who were in the process of exiting the religion. After dinner the parents told their children that they were no longer going to the meetings. 7 year-old daughter expresses her feelings:
"Good. I hate going to the meetings. Does this mean I can join the [local] netball team?"
Child is now a very, very, very talented and aggresive netball player. She tears the court up.
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i'm leaving this site forever
by stan livedeath inas the title says--i'm out of here for good.. the site is full of atheists, communists, 7th day adventists, creationists, believers, deceivers, receivers, football supporters,.
dodgy types, cantleave---and assorted wankers.. so no place for me--because i'm none of the above so dont fit in.
so--this is goodbye forever my friends--its been almost average knowing you.
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jwleaks
Don't you mean to say you're making a Brexit.
Take care Stan. We'll always have that Eminem song. Still love your MoT plates.
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Study article: "Go, and Make Disciples.." is a hot mess
by Sanchy inso i hooked into meeting via phone this week to listen in and was shocked at the absurdities mentioned in the study article (2016 may watchtower: "go,..and make disciples of people of all the nations").
the answer is obvious—only jehovah’s witnesses.
the answer the missionary priest gave in no way proves that jws are the only ones "preaching the good news".
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jwleaks
Without the preaching and teaching activities of Christendom over the centuries there would be no Bible and no manuscripts with which the JWs used to base their version of Christianity on. No Christendom = No Bible.
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why would God and Jesus hate the united nations?
by nowwhat? inshouldn't they say thanks for" holding down the fort" until we take over?.
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jwleaks
The United Nations actually responds when the Jehovah's Witnesses cry out for help and protection from religious persecution. This of course only occurs after the JWs have prayed to Jehovah, through Jesus, for help and received no reply.
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AWAKE! NO. 5 2016 - Did Jesus Really Exist?
by ttdtt inso again we go to the quality of evidence used by the wt.. you can read the article here - https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/awake-no5-2016-october/did-jesus-really-exist/.
you see the wt refer to experts with quotes.
as is usually the case the credentials are not represented, just that they are experts (so take their word).
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jwleaks
I wonder why they didn't quote from the 19th century writings of Charles Taze Russell. He believed there was enough evidence to support the existence of Jesus and wrote volumes about it.
Oh that's right ... Russell founded a religious book publishing cult who's teachings are contrary to what the JWs currently believe.
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Hideout for predator
by ab.ortega ini read this comment posted on a news site: .
if the police show up at the kingdom hall looking for a sexual predator, the elders will escort them out an emergency exist and tell them to "hide out until the coast is clear.".
is this true, is there printed instructions to support it?
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jwleaks
If the police show up at the Kingdom Hall looking for a sexual predator, the elders will escort them out an emergency exist and tell them to "hide out until the coast is clear."
^^ NOT TRUE ^^
If the police show up at the Kingdom Hall looking for a [member of the Governing Body of Jrhovah's Witnesses guilty of failing to report a] sexual predator, the elders will escort them out an emergency exist and tell them to "hide out until the coast is clear."
^^ TRUE ^^