Posts by Sanchy

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Confused

by confused3426 in

jw
friends

i am a newbie, and yes current jw.

i have been dealing with a lot confusion for months now.

i guess it started last year when i found myself losing my zeal, desire for spiritual things.

Sanchy

Hi confused3426. This is corruptgirl's husband. It's so good to see you post here! It's a great community where most have gone through exactly what your are experiencing right now.

All I can say is: You've taken a great first step in allowing yourself to question this faith. That is the most difficult part to overcome for a member of this religion. As much as it is indeed life shattering to realize that everything you believed was not really true, its also the beginning of discovering your true self, your authentic identity, your soul, unchained from the untruth that held you back before.

Continue researching with an unbiased heart. Question everything. Let the facts lead you to conclusion.

Have you stopped attending meetings?

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THIS Is How Muslim Mother “Fixes” Rape Of 2-Year-Old Granddaughter By Grandfather

by Hecce in

saw this dated 2/26/2017, seems to be from 12/2015.. .

even in a religious culture that advocates the murder of victims as honorable, fathers and brothers are typically the perpetrators of horrific violence against female family members whose only crime was to be the victim of another, the killing of a child by its mother stands out as particularly unnatural and depraved.such a heinous act occurred recently in sohag, egypt when a mother of a two-year-old child took the life of her child rather than protect it from violent sexual assault by its own grandfather.. a muslim mother identified only as “merfat” was awakened by screams in the middle of the night and found her father, faraj, in the act of raping her daughter.. .

rather than acting out of a natural, protective instinct, the 23-year-old mother chose to shield her father from scandal as taught by muslim theology and sharia law.. merfat told authorities that she took her daughter, little grace ahmed, from the grandfather, placed her in a tub and held her head under water until the child drown.. alik akhmim, chief detective of the police in sohag told egyptian reporters that “traces of blood” had been found in the little girl’s anus, evidencing the degree of force and injury the child endured at the hands of her mother’s father.. this kind of act is referred to as an “honor killing” thought to place the reputation of the family above that of any individual member, and which is used to punish the victim rather than hold the perpetrator accountable.. murdering rape victims is common in countries and communities that adhere to sharia law where the crime is rarely reported for fear of exposing the family to shame.. “honor killing” is no longer limited to predominantly muslim countries or the middle east.

Sanchy

Something similar happens when a family decides to hide congregation related child abuse to protect the Watchtower reputation

That's exactly right. Very similar human psychology at work there.

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THIS Is How Muslim Mother “Fixes” Rape Of 2-Year-Old Granddaughter By Grandfather

by Hecce in

saw this dated 2/26/2017, seems to be from 12/2015.. .

even in a religious culture that advocates the murder of victims as honorable, fathers and brothers are typically the perpetrators of horrific violence against female family members whose only crime was to be the victim of another, the killing of a child by its mother stands out as particularly unnatural and depraved.such a heinous act occurred recently in sohag, egypt when a mother of a two-year-old child took the life of her child rather than protect it from violent sexual assault by its own grandfather.. a muslim mother identified only as “merfat” was awakened by screams in the middle of the night and found her father, faraj, in the act of raping her daughter.. .

rather than acting out of a natural, protective instinct, the 23-year-old mother chose to shield her father from scandal as taught by muslim theology and sharia law.. merfat told authorities that she took her daughter, little grace ahmed, from the grandfather, placed her in a tub and held her head under water until the child drown.. alik akhmim, chief detective of the police in sohag told egyptian reporters that “traces of blood” had been found in the little girl’s anus, evidencing the degree of force and injury the child endured at the hands of her mother’s father.. this kind of act is referred to as an “honor killing” thought to place the reputation of the family above that of any individual member, and which is used to punish the victim rather than hold the perpetrator accountable.. murdering rape victims is common in countries and communities that adhere to sharia law where the crime is rarely reported for fear of exposing the family to shame.. “honor killing” is no longer limited to predominantly muslim countries or the middle east.

Sanchy

Terribly sad story Hecce.

Reminds me of reports I read this past weekend of topless fem protesting trump's "muslim ban" over in Europe. I couldn't help but giggle at the irony of such an event.

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Interesting cross reference

by Steel in

hebrew 1 8-12 .

but about the son, he says: “god is your throne+ forever and ever, and the scepter of your kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.

you loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness.

Sanchy

Come on Steel, don't get yourself all worked up.

I don't think it's that we are "as lazy about the bible as when" we were in. Truth is, I did deep digging into bible teachings once I left JW world. From there I realized that there were valid arguments on both sides of the "Is Jesus God" isle. Depending on what texts one uses, they can prove that Jesus is Jehovah, or not.

The same can be said about heaven vs earth, holy spirit an individual or not, hellfire or not, resurrection spiritual or carnal..and various others doctrines. The bible is just not clear about those subjects and either side could be proved depending on what verses one chooses to use.

Realizing this lead me to question if anyone can really ever know exactly what the bible really teaches about any of these subjects.

Regardless of my beliefs, WT is wrong, I'm sure we can agree on that.

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The very first Watchtower, in the very first page, predicted the 2016 US Presidential Election!

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

don't believe me?see for yourselves!.

Sanchy

It would be nice to get pre-1950 Awakes and Watchtowers in Spanish, but I can't find them anywhere online, not even for sale

I hear ya. I realised how hard it was for the old Spanish stuff to come by a while back while creating my own Spanish research material.

$500 for the book is crazy. Would be nice if one of the lucky owners scanned a few pages.

Anyways, I'll keep an eye for anything old and make sure to toss it your way.

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Interesting cross reference

by Steel in

hebrew 1 8-12 .

but about the son, he says: “god is your throne+ forever and ever, and the scepter of your kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.

you loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness.

Sanchy

Nice catch Steel. One of the things that most made me doubt the divinity of the bible was the fact that it could be interpreted 100 different ways depending on what text/reference one chooses to use.

Whether Jesus is Yahweh or not, or whether the hope is for heaven or earth, or any other critical doctrine, there's just no clarity in the bible. What kind of God would author such a book?

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The very first Watchtower, in the very first page, predicted the 2016 US Presidential Election!

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

don't believe me?see for yourselves!.

Sanchy

ILoveTTATT2 how are you going about getting the older publications in Spanish? Are you having to translate most of them?... or are you having success finding actual original Spanish pubs?

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Does Paul preach a fundamentally different religion than Jesus?

by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

controversy has arisen regarding jesus versus paul as scholars debate the different emphases and messages of jesus and paul.1 jesus preached the kingdom of heaven.

paul did not.

paul preached justification by faith alone.

Sanchy

I bet Paul and Tony Morris III would have much in common. I can see them sharing a symposium talk regarding gays and tight pants.

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Have a friend who only speaks Spanish and want him/her to learn TTATT? www.verdadtj.com

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

if you have a friend who only speaks spanish, or they speak english but spanish is their preferred language, i am pleased to tell you that there is a spanish translation of jwfacts in progress.

so far, these are the completely translated articles:asociación de la watchtower con las naciones unidas - un ngo associationcelebración de los cumpleaños - birthdayslas transfusiones de sangre - bloodpredicción fallida de 1975 - 1975¿por qué está mal el ser un testigo de jehová?

- what's wrong with being a jw?escándalos de la watchtower - watchtower scandalsexpulsión y rechazo - disfellowshippingfolleto general acerca de la watchtower - pdf - general pdf about wtvideo - crecer como testigo de jehová - growing up a jw¿debería estar jehová en el nuevo testamento?

Sanchy

Awesome work guys!. It can be a challenge to find the older publication quotes in Spanish, so this site has already been quite helpful in my case in dealing with some of my spanish speaking friends. Thanks to all that worked on this!

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Need your honest opinion

by poopie in

jw
friends

this is the scenario there's a guy who is df and being shunned big time.

we'll he needs a place to stay since he can't stay with his family you know the shunning thing well another jw in good standing says he can stay with him .the df guy is delighted but a little problem the elders are going to find out the df guy car parked at jw house.

no one in the area knows he's df because it's 90 miles from the cong he was df in so i told him he's takeing a risk but he says i'm going to show love to this person no matter what..

Sanchy

You have an amazing heart poopie