in the 1960`s when i was a new convert , a 20 year old , i devoured the book "jehovahs witnesses in the divine purpose" outlining the early history of the restoration of true christianity in the world.it helped to convince me then that this was indeed the true religion......not that i remember much of the details it contained nowadays .. i understand there was a poor attempt to mimic it with the " proclaimers " book a much sanitized version of the early history of the jw religion.
what reputable organization in the world ,secular ,religious or otherwise ,doctors their own early history/ beginnings unless they have something to hide or are ashamed of.. how many jw`s today would know that they were formed as the " international bible students association" in the late 1800`s , or that their first president of that association was none other than w.h.conley ,and not c.t.russell.. does it even matter ?
does anybody really care ?.
I recently chatted online (through a FB alias account) to a current JW. When I started telling her stories about some of the things Russel said and did, she told me it mattered not to her, since "the first JW goes way back to Abel, not Russel".
So there you go.
"if you are a young person you need to face the fact you will never grow old in this system of things.. why not?
because all the evidence in fulfilment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years...as a young person you will never fulfil any career that this system offers".
may 22 awake!
got it.. thank you darkspilver
"if you are a young person you need to face the fact you will never grow old in this system of things.. why not?
because all the evidence in fulfilment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years...as a young person you will never fulfil any career that this system offers".
may 22 awake!
What did the reprints say in place of these words?
if he get pass this, america deserve him...... conversation 10 years ago..
Trump will not be a good president for anyone no matter what your politics are.
..agreed 100% Lisa. It just sucks. I have to vote for the least "worst of two evils".
Trump's policies are indeed a random variable. However, I do know exactly what HIllary's policies are and I know with certainty that she would appoint a liberal judge to the SC, tilting the court left. I'm having so much trouble deciding to willingly vote for that, but I have no choice I guess.
if he get pass this, america deserve him...... conversation 10 years ago..
What many fail to realize is that for those on the right there are huge and important issues at stake should another democratic president be elected into office. I myself for instance, am terribly conflicted (and as my luck would have it, this is the first election I will vote on as a fresh out exjw). Issues important to me:
-The next supreme court nominee
-Government controlled healthcare
-Gov infringing into religious rights and matters of conscience
-Increases in regulation and taxes
-President overstepping authority with countless "executive actions"
-National debt
Now, what do I do? Trump is an absolute asshole, a clown, and someone I would not want representing this great nation. Unfortunately he's the one that ~30 percent of the party voted for to become it's nominee. Hillary, on the other hand, will further policies that go contrary what I believe are good for the country, and instead will make it continue down a long-term path that I believe is no good. So, what do I do?
Some in my situation attempt to justify Trump's behavior and actions, because they have no choice. Me, I can't. He's an idiot. The party is getting what it deserves even though it was really a minority of it that elected trump as it's nominee.
Yet, I still have to vote for someone. My only option is to vote for Hillary as president and for repubs in congress, perhaps to attempt to balance the powers and prevent some of her agenda? It's just so twisted tho.
I just don't know. Again, we are just f*cked.
all religions under critical examination has been recognized inherently as formative lies devised to appeal to human emotions and as a means to cultivate power and control for a select propagating few.
knowledge acquired through scientific inquiry and evaluation has proven that all religious adherence was mostly drawn out human ignorance targeted toward the emotions and consciousness of people.
here we are in the 21 century and people like the jws are still adhering to the lies of christianity and how this religion developed over time.
Because:
-Many were born into it
-It explains the inexplicable (even if irrationally)
-It makes them a part of a community
-Majority do not have mental capacity or will to understand complex scientific processes
-It brings them hope of a better future, and of life after death
if he get pass this, america deserve him...... conversation 10 years ago..
What would happen if Trump decided to step out of the race?????
.. Good question. I've heard conflicting opinions. Some say it's too late for a switch, others say VP nominee would step in.
You know, after watching the VP debate the other night, it seems to me that they should be the ones at the top of the tickets.
if he get pass this, america deserve him...... conversation 10 years ago..
I am real. The move towards more socialism began long before Hillary, and will continue growing me thinks. Look at the strength of Bernie's campaign. A self declared socialist almost got the nomination of a major US political party. That would have never happened a few years ago.
Hillary wants the typical left talking points: $15 min wage, government paid college, singke payer health care and higher taxes on the better off. We can argue the merits of such policies all night long, but regardless of how you feel about them, they would be big moves to the left.
Also, doesn't change the fact that she's a "lying, corrupt nag" and so, as someone that leans right, all my options are terrible.
if he get pass this, america deserve him...... conversation 10 years ago..
As a liberterian/conservative, I can't possibly bring myself to vote for this disgusting lunatic.
My next option, Gary, is a bozo, a completely inadequate bozo.
That leaves me with Hillary, a lying, corrupt nag, who will only take our country further into socialism and political correctness.
We are fkd
i just wanted to intoroduce myself.
i have been lurking for some time and finally decided to register and hopefully contribute to this great forum.. i am in my mid 30s and have never been in the truth.
my wife became a jw several years ago and since she is a (mostly) stay at home mom my two boys are also jws.
Welcome NotAnnointed. I'm sorry to hear about your wife and kids. Stay patient and hold strong, sooner or later she will come to her senses.
About the loss of faith in the God of the bible, it is true that some think that way because of the effect the JW faith has had in their lives, but for most of us, we've arrived at such a conclusion because of valid facts that we've had to take into consideration.
Be it as it may, whether you believe in God or not, the JW religion is a dangerous cult, and THAT is a message worth spreading.
