Posts by ExBethelitenowPIMA

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JWlite like being a Trekkie. You know it’s fictional

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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i now view jwlite like the trekkie conventions.

star trek is fiction and all the fans know this full well.

but they find it beneficial.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Even in the Trekkie world there are some who are no longer strong in the faith. They are just not as interested as they used to be. So I hear.

The real zealot Trekkies don’t give them are a hard time or shun them, or give them special encouragement to return to Star Trek 🤣

but JWs can now be the same as a Trekkie who has lost interest in what brought them together in the first place.

many JWs stay on as JWlite just for family and friends social club. There is nothing wrong with this.

In fact most religions have majority of members in the light category and JWs are slowly turning into the same

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What you think consequences gonna be for watchtower if they lose the court appeal in Norway?

by Hellothere in

personally i think they gonna realise god's not backing org.

that idea gonna get even more established in their minds.

i think the real selling of kingdom hall gonna start then.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

The consequences are losing the government benefits

plus there have been other court cases where they lie about shunning and say it’s only spiritual things we don’t talk about but there is no shunning going on at all

”of course we still talk to those who leave JWs and treat them as before but just don’t talk about spiritual thing”

this is a bold faced lie.

but we have been conditioned into thinking it’s ok to lie for Jehovah. If they don’t deserve the truth in court of something then it’s ok to tell lies for Jehovah

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New light on shunning?

by Mikejw in

one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.

he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .

what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

In addition to what Tonus stated, back in the 1970's there was a period of time when the shunning was relaxed towards DF who were not continuing to practice sin and not opposers to the WT, such as someone attending with the intent to be reinstated.

I have heard older ones talk about this change. It would not be surprising if they flip flopped back again into a modern equivalent of the old light.

yes I can easily see an updated understanding of only having to shun those who are really bad and no need to shun those who are good people who just don’t believe anymore?

but who gets to decide which category each individual fits in? If they leave it upto JWs then some loved ones will have exceptions

😞

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What you think consequences gonna be for watchtower if they lose the court appeal in Norway?

by Hellothere in

personally i think they gonna realise god's not backing org.

that idea gonna get even more established in their minds.

i think the real selling of kingdom hall gonna start then.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

As I understand things, the American HQ does not support financially countries once the work is 'established'. As a result if Norway ends up in the red, its will be allowed to die on the vine. And in the end we would expect the Norwegian Brothers to see more halls going up for sale and congregation mergers. But I do feel that there is a little more time before we see this happening, as the local Branch could start encouraging publisher 'donations' more ... or put higher levies on the assembly halls, to make up the difference.

Maybe they would try to move donations from Norway to another country so as to avoid paying tax on them.

They did lose charity status in France a few decades ago. They had to start paying fair 40% tax on all donations.

they sneakily moved everything to the UK and even tried to illegally move donations to the UK

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New website -Testimonies on the adverse events of anti Covid-19 vaccination campaigns among Jehovah's Witnesses.

by was a new boy in

'jehovah's witnesses are heavily vaccinated due to guidance given from july to december 20211 by the governing body.many witnesses have had serious adverse effects following vaccination campaigns and, for the most part, have had great difficulty in expressing them and having them recognized.this website was made to allow each witness touched by these vaccination campaigns to express it so that the community takes it into account.'.

https://adverse-events-jw.org.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Some say there is no way to get the spike protein out of you once it’s been injected into your system. It’s blasting away until it ruins your health and kills you.

but just keep following the direction of the GB even if it doesn’t make sense as they are Jehovah’s channel on Earth since 1919😭

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JWlite like being a Trekkie. You know it’s fictional

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

jw
friends

i now view jwlite like the trekkie conventions.

star trek is fiction and all the fans know this full well.

but they find it beneficial.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Yes same as long time Trekkie not so interested in Star Trek as they used to be, but just love the social aspect.

It’s like a Trekkie enjoying being a Trekkie and all the meet ups and all the friends who share a common interest. You may not be all that interested in start track anymore but you have such good friendships so you pretend you are still interested. Maybe loads of your friends are the same you and are also just pretending to be still interested in Star Trek as it’s a common thread that you all share.

The GB would hate it if they got wind of large numbers compared to Trekkies.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Yes that part of boogie nights movie is very fitting. He is so self obsessed he says it’s me, ME ME ME. But nobody is interested. He has ruined his life.

watchtower must be so pleased this is a poster boy for what happens when you leave.

he has become the exact opposite of what he says an activist against watchtower. He is an activist for watchtower shows what could happen if you leave.

you end up bleach hair drugy unhappy unhealthy greasy scruffy ugly lonely old man who’s family won’t want anything to do with him soon, once the kids are old enough to to internet searches Living in a country where he never bothered to learn the language.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

That would be almost be the proper ending to his story: him trying to find a new place to live

That is inevitable at some point. Or is he going to grow old alone in a country where he doesn’t speak the language and has no friends or family once his daughters discover the truth about him.

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JWlite like being a Trekkie. You know it’s fictional

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

jw
friends

i now view jwlite like the trekkie conventions.

star trek is fiction and all the fans know this full well.

but they find it beneficial.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

I wonder if things will morph into something that people actually openly talk about, maybe we don’t have full understanding but we love the sound of the Bibles promises.

As you rightly say Doigenesister many are already at this place in their mind. I wonder if there could be a time when it’s openly talked about that we may have the wrong interpretation of the core beliefs but it’s ok even if it’s not true we love being part of the congregation, it’s a shared common interest that keeps us all together.

If we ever got to this place then all meeting parts and comments would change. It would be along the lines of “the Bible promised this and we may not have full understanding like we were wrong about so many things, but it will be interesting to see what happens and in the meantime it’s wonderful to have the hope that the Bible offers”

This is exactly where I am in my mind. I know that there is a possibility that God doesn’t exist but if I firmly leave all my hope behind then I will be losing so much. I don’t want to lose all my friends that share this fiction with me.

It’s like a Trekkie enjoying being a Trekkie and all the meet ups and all the friends who share a common interest. You may not be all that interested in start track anymore but you have such good friendships so you pretend you are still interested. Maybe loads of your friends are the same you and are also just pretending to be still interested in Star Trek as it’s a common thread that you all share.

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New website -Testimonies on the adverse events of anti Covid-19 vaccination campaigns among Jehovah's Witnesses.

by was a new boy in

'jehovah's witnesses are heavily vaccinated due to guidance given from july to december 20211 by the governing body.many witnesses have had serious adverse effects following vaccination campaigns and, for the most part, have had great difficulty in expressing them and having them recognized.this website was made to allow each witness touched by these vaccination campaigns to express it so that the community takes it into account.'.

https://adverse-events-jw.org.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

It’s now being talked about openly that the GB were wrong about the vaccines. They are not safe.