our last conversation was him yelling at me because i "loved the gays".
translation, i pointed out that nobody chooses their sexuality.
i've been shunned since daing last september, and really for a year or so after visiting my df'ed brother.
Dubstepped I would do something for your dad during your camping trip. Maybe say a few words for him around the fire one night. Have your own small Ceremony. Read Psalm 23. Sing a song.
It's going to be more meaningful than any witness memorial.
I'm glad there are good parts about your relationship with him that you can remember.
there are some things that as a witness i never knew.
maybe i was just going through the motions, attending meetings and not listening much.
never was very good at personal study or underlining answers in watchtower or book study (i never ever answered up) was too shy.. i never knew when i was a witness that they taught that jesus had looked down on the earth in 1919 to see who was serving god most accurately, and of course he chose a small group of bible students living in america!
I didn't know about miracle wheat, Beth Sarim, their hypocritical membership in the UN (that oh so detestable sacrilegious thing that wants to um, avoid war and um, end hunger and help children), that Russell used the steps inside the great pyramid of Giza to prove the end would come in 1914 (which is very similar to another cult's measurements of Noah's ark to predict the end of the world. One quack's ideas are not so different from another's!), Rutherford's horrible, horrible personality, alcoholism and well documented adultery, and that he usurped the Bible Students throne after Russell died, and went against the wishes of Russell outlined in Russell's will. I didn't know about the hypocrisy of policies in Africa vs. the same issues in Mexico (can't hurt the people so close to us, lets have a double standard)...
I DID know about Russell's pyramid gravesite and the masonic ties, and I had heard of Russell's divorce. I think there was a guy/apostate? at a door who had read a book and shared with me and my father those things before my father dismissed ourselves.
i booked a double appointment so that she wouldn't be rushed.
i explained that i'd been brought up in the jw's and woken up to what a load of shite it was.
i explained that they have changed the blood card and that the elders in the cong are being told to effectively force people into signing it.
is anyone here from imus cavite?
i need someone come to our house.
i need someone to invite my father.
i just read this.... http://avoidjw.org/2014/12/suicide-jehovahs-witness-missionary/.
does anybody know if this was a "real", missionary, or a need greater and who was it?
if you don't want to mention it here please a pm..
jw's are constantly trying to prove they have the truth.
they always point to matthew 24:14 and say "who is accomplishing this work today?
this proves we have the truth and gods backing".. for those of us in this community looking from the other side what is one thing that proves to you that this organization does not have gods backing?
hesitantly i attended this talk with my family and sat through it without batting an eye.. mentally i take myself out during the entire meeting some would describe this as daydreaming or zoning out.
whatever the case may be, for some reason this particular speaker, whom i know of but not personally, got my attention the way he would say certain phrases.
he cited some texts that directly advised the audience that faith in christ was the only way to salvation.
OK, well who else went to hear the special talk so we can see if this was in the outline or not?? And are special talks manuscript talks?
i am an 'active' jw but i do not agree with most of the doctrines inc blood, baptism, the memorial etc etc.i took the emblems at the memorial because i think we all should recognise and accept jesus' command to remember him.
not for one minute do i think this is only for the so called anointed.
i know it is full of man made error and that my fellow brothers and sisters are in a state of mindless, spiritual unawareness.
Please tell us your family situation and if anyone else is sympathizing with you in your close circle. Are you completely alone? You have probably a rough couple of years ahead, maybe more, depending on how many relationships you have and want to keep.
I held on to my belief in God, and even strengthened it, by letting go of fundamentalism. I joined another church. Everyone will have their own path, tho, and personalities play a big role in which way people go. It's the way it's supposed to be. The JW life is for one particular type of person, but people are more varied than that in reality (thank goodness!)
i am an 'active' jw but i do not agree with most of the doctrines inc blood, baptism, the memorial etc etc.i took the emblems at the memorial because i think we all should recognise and accept jesus' command to remember him.
not for one minute do i think this is only for the so called anointed.
i know it is full of man made error and that my fellow brothers and sisters are in a state of mindless, spiritual unawareness.
hesitantly i attended this talk with my family and sat through it without batting an eye.. mentally i take myself out during the entire meeting some would describe this as daydreaming or zoning out.
whatever the case may be, for some reason this particular speaker, whom i know of but not personally, got my attention the way he would say certain phrases.
he cited some texts that directly advised the audience that faith in christ was the only way to salvation.
