If I could do it over I would first have them sign a confidentiality agreement between only the three elders and you.
They break this rule first!
Next is the shock of listening to their lies. Lol
sarahsmile
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Wearing a wire
by Hairtrigger inhye folks-just wanted some info.
is wearing a wire to a jc or any other meeting an easy-to-do thing.
how do you go about trying to find to an agency that hires out equipment?
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Internet Dating - I feel like I am being love bombed again
by KateWild ini am on three or four sites and lots of guys are showing an interest and trying to be genuine.
it reminds me of being love bombed by the jws.
i am having so much fun and loving all the attention, i almost got carried away with it all, until i got a pm on jwn.. i have just been absorbing it all and it dawned on me i am still vulnerable, and possibly not ready to date.
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sarahsmile
Go ahead and meet them out! It is coffee and not a relationship.
Men love bomb for one thing so get above the compliments.
As long as you listen to love bombing,they say what they want to get what they want.
There are a lot weeds out there. Some men see internet as an opportunity: they love bomb 50 girls and one will go for it.
As far as more time from WT before you move on. You might be referring to your ex,
No such thing! But there is something about JW teaching about taking dating serious. Some odd way walking away from WT it does leave you vulnerable. Because, one might think the outside is just as serious and it far from it.
On the flip side maybe the society was right about certain things.
Recovery from a crap ex JW husband. If your going out there telling men your garbage in memory lane regarding why your divorced.
It means you need a women's group. Healthy men do not want to listen to it but men who love bomb will. Healthy men: want to fall in love and be valued just like you, and not be a therapist for dysfunctionals.
Read some dating books and do find a women's group.
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How Did "Shepherding Calls" Go For You?
by minimus indid you loath them?
did you feel it was a "privilege" to have the elders care deeply about your spiritual well being?
if you were an elder or ministerial servant, did you enjoy going to the homes of the sheep?.
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sarahsmile
What sheparding call! No such thing around here.
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If the new Governing body Saunderson was baptised in 1975 - you could be anointed too
by bruh2012 insomeone mention on another thread about the newest- youngest governing body member- if he is anointed being baptised around 1975 why wouldnt anyone else baptised around that time be anointed too!.
right ???
or since the call to be anointed ended in 1935 teaching became no more with new light - is it random choosing now??
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sarahsmile
Village girl good point!
Here was my thought! And I personal think these scripture place more meaning for the Last Supper symbolic representation. Jesus says WHOEVER not just some! There is no class system. John 6
Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. 38 ForI have come down from heaven, not to do my own will butthe will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
41 So the Jews grumbled about him, because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.” 42 They said, “Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and motherwe know? How does he now say, ‘I have come down from heaven’?” 43 Jesus answered them, “Do not grumble among yourselves. 44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.45 It is written in the Prophets, ‘And they will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me— 46 not that anyone has seen the Father excepthe who is from God; he has seen the Father. 47 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 50 This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will givefor the life of the world is my flesh.”
52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” 53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh ofthe Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.54 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. 55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever feeds on me, he also will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like the bread[ c ] the fathers ate, and died. Whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.” 59 Jesus[ d ] said these things in the synagogue, as he taught at Capernaum.
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If the new Governing body Saunderson was baptised in 1975 - you could be anointed too
by bruh2012 insomeone mention on another thread about the newest- youngest governing body member- if he is anointed being baptised around 1975 why wouldnt anyone else baptised around that time be anointed too!.
right ???
or since the call to be anointed ended in 1935 teaching became no more with new light - is it random choosing now??
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sarahsmile
Yes many who already knew the king were invited. However, the ones who came to the wedding were not of the kings list,invitation!
The many who were orginally invited were not interested!
Therefore go into the highways, and as many as you find, invite to the wedding.’ 10 So those servants went out into the highways and gathered together all whom they found, both bad and good. And the wedding hall was filled with guests.
Both bad and good!
The arrangement was done! but they rejected the Kings invitation!
Watcher assumed it Adult Jehovahs Witness yet how could strangers on the highway be from the same sect!
For there are many invited, but few chosen." And that few were good and bad as guest the choosen.
Watcher you can assume what you want when it comes to this parable.
Partaking has nothing to do with this parable! So your entire concept is really under WT influences and not Jesus Christ.
" The kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who arranged a marriage for his son, 3 and sent out his servants to call those who were invited to the wedding; and they were not willing to come."
Watcher good try!
Partaking was offered to the multitude a mixed crowd with everlasting life. :-)
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If the new Governing body Saunderson was baptised in 1975 - you could be anointed too
by bruh2012 insomeone mention on another thread about the newest- youngest governing body member- if he is anointed being baptised around 1975 why wouldnt anyone else baptised around that time be anointed too!.
right ???
or since the call to be anointed ended in 1935 teaching became no more with new light - is it random choosing now??
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sarahsmile
Partake are not to partake?
Why not research your bible and see what Jesus said.
I believed the WT 144,000 class only until I was about 35! 144,000 class or the one guy you mentioned.
It is the same thing just fewer partakers.
I believe Jesus opened partaking up to a mixed multitude who represented everyone. Jewish rejected him and everyone left. But does that mean we as Christians should reject Jesus?
Maybe you should start with reading Jesus sayings telling everyone to partake five times!
The WT is like Satan who wants people to believe only the opposite of Jesus words.
Did Jesus ever say" You do not need to partake to gain eternal life?" Only Satan would convince Christians to not partake.
The new GB arrangements and the WT are just non Christian because the point you are making! I guess you thought something out,good for you.
But honestly it just crazy cult thinking one must go through to wake up.
Did Jesus tell people to not partake?
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New Light: 3rd heaven?
by problemaddict inforgive me if this has been covered.
last year i did a synopsis of the convention, but my wife decided she did not want to go this year (thats a win), so i didn't either.
a good friend of mine however tipped me to something in david splanes talk.. its pretty mild, but seems a bit wacky.
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sarahsmile
According to the WTBTS, paradise can mean an earthly paradise as well as heavenly,
Data that is interesting because the 60s and 70s JWs never heard WT describe a heavenly paradise. That would go against, Truly today you will be in paradise.
Paradise was always earthly.
The way WT explains things away: It therefore appears that the reference to “the third heaven” indicates the superlative degree of the rapture in which this vision was seen. Note the way words and expressions are repeated three times at Isaiah 6:3; Ezekiel 21:27; John 21:15-17; Revelation 4:8, evidently for the purpose of expressing an intensification of the quality or idea.
LOL,now that explains it! Lol! I guess that is a nice way of saying WT does not believe in third heavens, basically the guy was too high!
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Religion vs the gospel
by Fernando inour family's journey out of the watchtower has led us to see the gospel as the antithesis or exact opposite of religion.. for us religion is men telling us what to believe and do (to control us).. for us the gospel is god telling us what he has done (to liberate us from such men).. how have you come to see the relationship between religion and the gospel?.
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sarahsmile
The Almighty Father has clearly expressed his plans for us through out the entire bible. From 12 tribes of Israel to Christianity. The gospel accounts are evidence of Jesus Christ sayings and miracles. Religion - Christanity was born out of ones following Jesus Christ sayings and salvation and believing in him.
Although, I do not worship weekly in a Christian sect what I noticed: most people go to be around others who believe in the salvation of Jesus Christ.They gather themselves together. They pray for others, and they donate their money: to feed the poor, help the widows, and fatherless.They sing songs and raise their voices for God to hear. There are more to churches then controlling men through doctrines. The doctrines are rules to follow and are short. Mainly to love one another.
Now cult churches like JW are not praying for others unless it is just the cult. They are not donating money: to feed the poor,helping the widows,and fatherless. Cults are too busy spreading propaganda and have too many rules. They are trying to control mens minds with propaganda.
I do not see too many churches with weekly magazines that one must obey!
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Ensure that you dont appear to be Negative , Unhappy or Bitter
by stuckinarut2 injust a quick thought.... we know that the org loves to paint all those who fade or leave as "negative, bitter and unhappy"...because of course "the truth is the happiest way to live".
so, never allow ourselves to be that way when talking with witnesses, or family members still in.. show them that we are happy, our lives are fulfilled and positive.. then they have no ammunition.
also, it helps other doubters to see that there is life in the world beyond the org..
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sarahsmile
I do not see any JWs! If I do I will just walk by them. It is not negative or happy it just is! No one cares after years of not going.
As God said,"I am who I am."
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Remembering Stealth453
by Bumble Bee ini'm not sure if there is anyone here anymore that remembers stealth, but if there is i just wanted to pass on the news that he passed away from a heart attack almost 2 years ago now.. i just found out myself today.
he had moved overseas and we lost contact.
he was in an area that he didn't always have reliable internet connections, so it wasn't uncommon for me to not hear from him for long stretches.
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sarahsmile
Yes I remember him! Thanks for letting everyone know what happened to him.
So sorry for your lost connection.