Posts by sarahsmile

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Could There Be Another Mass Exodus From This Cult?

by mrquik in

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it's happened before.

how much crap can any rational human being take before they just snap & walk away disgusted?.

sarahsmile

"Don't be surprised if Watchtower implements a new draconian policy in the near future that says inactive ones who miss x number of consequetive meetings will be considered as having disassociated themsleves and are to be treated the same as those who have formally disassociated themselves."

Inactive ones are marked! They are considered bad association it is a silent disassociation.

It so obvious that when elders do not speak to certain individuals they are marked. Congregation notice and does the samething.

Elders also mark ones because they do not like them or in my brothers case his shirt was hanging out.

Why do you think people stop attending because they have no association.

Sometimes hidden rules are worse than written rules. X

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Could There Be Another Mass Exodus From This Cult?

by mrquik in

jw
friends

it's happened before.

how much crap can any rational human being take before they just snap & walk away disgusted?.

sarahsmile

It means nothing! If everyone left tomorrow there would still be JW. GB would just hire someone to run the internet site. Actually at their age it would be the best thing to happen. More money for them and they could retire.

I am sure they get real tired if dealing with the garbage and would love to shut it down but the organization is a beast.

With or without people it will live on.

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A glaring example of how Watchtower's insertion of "Jehovah" corrupts the NT

by Island Man in

"the rnwt replaces "kyrios" (lord) with "jehovah" in translating romans 14:8 as follows:.

"for if we live, we live to jehovah,*+ and if we die, we die to jehovah.

* so both if we live and if we die, we belong to jehovah.".

sarahsmile

The scriptures Island Man wrote Romans 14:8,9 was stating Jesus as Lord. Later Paul qoutes Old Testament but not in 8 or 9.

The scripture Apogno qouted Romans 10:13, Paul stated it was written and he referred back to OT: LORD,YHWH.

So the Wt should not insert Jehovah where it does not belong in Romans 14:8.

No comparison with Romans 10:13.

Everyone knows Jesus is Lord and YHWH is LORD. That the first teachings of the WT.

The point is the Wt will change scriptures.

Island Man good Job! Just another manipulation of WT!

Apognos look at the scriptures again! It was a nice try! I read the chapter!

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A glaring example of how Watchtower's insertion of "Jehovah" corrupts the NT

by Island Man in

"the rnwt replaces "kyrios" (lord) with "jehovah" in translating romans 14:8 as follows:.

"for if we live, we live to jehovah,*+ and if we die, we die to jehovah.

* so both if we live and if we die, we belong to jehovah.".

sarahsmile

7 For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself; 8 for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord's. 9 For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.…

Verse 7 is referring to Lord as Jesus!

:-) Good one!

Most JW would ignore the facts!

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Luke 12:45 - Does that mean the F&D can go "bad"?

by thedepressedsoul in

the more i read the gospels the more i get the feeling that jesus warns about organized religion or those that overbear on your faith telling you completely how to worship god.

let's say luke chapter 12 is talking about the f&s.

does vs 45 on mean that the f&s can turn bad so to speak?

sarahsmile

Lundo you did an excellent job! All christain are in a stewardship.

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Luke 12:45 - Does that mean the F&D can go "bad"?

by thedepressedsoul in

the more i read the gospels the more i get the feeling that jesus warns about organized religion or those that overbear on your faith telling you completely how to worship god.

let's say luke chapter 12 is talking about the f&s.

does vs 45 on mean that the f&s can turn bad so to speak?

sarahsmile

"Suppose" the "faithful servant or slave" does not preach Christ delay or gets drunk and parties. He beats his fellow servants with emotional black mail. Would the ending change. No

You can read that chapter many ways! The master could be YHWH and Jesus could be the servant. In my view point, the conversation is to prove that only Jesus was handed such a responsibility. Through only him holy spirit is given which is food.

Also, Jesus never answered the question. 41Peter said, "Lord, are You addressing this parable to us, or to everyone else as well?" Probably neither! Peter was just as puzzled with Jesus saying as we are today.

Kind of hard to emotionally black mail people over an unanswered question and a parable at that!

Many people try to make claim to that title with poor results! Unfortunately, it has harmed many for believing them.

Anyhow there are other ways to interrupt that chapter and reading it for yourselves is better than depending on a religion. What religion would not want that power!

Haha I like what DD said.

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Main reason JWs are JWs

by Batman89 in

what is the(or what was your) main motivation for serving god as a jw(or any christian)?.

a) love for god and genuinely trying to learn more about him and bible truths?.

b) to escape punishment/death at armegddon?.

sarahsmile

Sorry I am stuck on the serving part! What like going door to door is serving!

No reason and it was mandatory and forced. I never thought ever anything the JWs did was serving God but socializing.

I doubt any JW kid or young adult actually thinks about armeggedon or everlasting life. It is all bull. Paradise earth is just part of a doctrine.

What you call serving is a verbal contract with the JWs.

Serving that is a good one! joke. I doubt God would ever think of anything a JW does is serving him! or any church.

One must be really delusional if they think sitting in any church is part of serving God.

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"No more money, not one red cent!"

by Separation of Powers in

once you recognize that the contributions you gave for the upkeep of your place of worship have been given to the corporation and will only be used to upkeep your place of worship at their discretion...the caption will become your mantra!.

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sop.

sarahsmile

I see people at my church donating in the plate every week. The plate is full of twenties and hundreds. Three services a week and three different churches. About 200 in each services.

Every week the donation is mentioned in the talk! They even did it at the passover meal how respectful.

And that is not including tithing or extra guilt donations for third world. One year they bought a helicopter for a third world country it changed their style.

All religions pay for their pastors salaries. Some way over fifty thousand a year.

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My wife is never going to wake up.

by marriedtoajw in

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friends

what do you do when you believe in your heart that your spouse is never going to wake up to the tatt?

when you're sick of the cherade of pretending you can deal with the spiritual division when you dont think you can anymore.

when you're convinced that your spouse is so decieved she is lost in a desert and is fine with living by the mirage.

sarahsmile

Good question but only you can answer that one. Go get some private therapy to help you figure it out.

At least your daughter is not screaming to get high on meth,right? Or she went to a party and she was the party.

Maybe you need to train her for college. I resent my parents for not training everyone for a higher education.

It is called screwing your children up! Your job is to make sure she is spending time with her education and that she is going to college not door to door.

Take her to the college campus to study.

Take her to pick up applications!

Let your daughter that door to door activity and going to the kingdom hall is not going to prepare her for a career. She needs to get some scholarships and mentally prepare for four years of college.

That is your reponsibilty. Also, become that head of the house to your wife. Tell her their will be some changes and door to door will be once a month. When she starts to talk all they JW talk ignore her just stay focus.

Going to the KH and door to door is a waste of time! Let your family know prorities are going to change!

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"Probably You Might be Saved" - Somewhere in Zephaniah As I Recall

by Perry in

the watchtower (and old-timers in the org) love to quote old testament passages that were directed toward israel.

however, the new testament is "a better covenant based upon better promises".. in the following verses, salvation is not described as a possibility, but as a certainty, as a present possession for the original christians:.

justification is a present possession (rom.

sarahsmile

Maybe they are too busy preaching the Kingdom is already here and God set them up as the choosen people in the court of the kingdom. Kingdom Hall. The saved. They must be clean by not practicing sins.

Also, Jesus is getting ready to stand up to bring on the wrath of God's Day,Armageddon to put in end to the "lost!"

So you are preaching the same when you stated,A person is either saved or he is lost, either entirely saved or entirely lost. I leave it in Christ hands to judge. I am a sinner and I know it whereas some want to pretend they are in the entirely saved group which no one would know that one but only the Father not even Jesus.

But it was a good point.